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oysterflexer · 27 July 2018, 03:55 AM

What's the wait time on average for a PP SS 5711 at the AD?

Is there anywhere in the world where it might be a shorter wait?

Also, is the list price 25k USD?

Thanks

watchbowl · 27 July 2018, 04:27 AM

Depending on your relationship a few weeks to never. (I’m on the never timescale at the moment as I can’t even get on the list)

No such thing as an ‘average’ wait with this model!

SDDS · 27 July 2018, 04:29 AM

Hey,

The list price is almost 30K, the waiting time depends really on how good your relationship is with your AD, if you have a good relationship you might get it within a short period of time, but they average from 1 to 3yrs and sometimes longer too

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RHIII · 27 July 2018, 05:11 AM

Long enough to change your mind....

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tng11 · 27 July 2018, 05:20 AM

Without a pre-existing relationship, the multi year "wait time" is basically a polite way of telling you it's never happening. Some ADs simply have these things sitting in the safe waiting for the right client, while others may wait a few months to a few years.

And most ADs will only want to deal with people in their specific area, so you'll have little luck trying to "forum shop" as well.

ap1 · 27 July 2018, 05:54 AM

I just surveyed all ADs globally and the wait is longer than you’d like

uniqueMR · 27 July 2018, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RHIII

Long enough to change your mind....

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:) Agree

Commonproject · 27 July 2018, 06:39 AM

If AD tells you more than a year it means they will never call you, even in 10 years, unless you buy something from them. Had 1 AD tell me they'd be willing to bump me up to near the top if I bought a 5205g

Helmi · 27 July 2018, 07:13 AM

The wait time for me is the ETA the dealer will give you after accepting a deposit on the watch. Without deposit it is just not going to happen

thomaspp · 27 July 2018, 07:24 AM

If you buy a 5270, immediately as it is in the safe. If you don’t buy anything else, years.

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GB-man · 27 July 2018, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaspp

If you buy a 5270, immediately as it is in the safe. If you don’t buy anything else, years.

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Just like Rolex ADs buy a full PM on bracelet and out comes the SS Daytona. Except much more coin required!

watchtabs · 27 July 2018, 08:08 AM

I've called almost ALL US ads, and I mean ALL of them. Called about 2-3 weeks ago and got the following data.

I'd imagine its worse if its a blue one.

Here's a quick peak at my analysis:

error: 5164, is supposed to be 5164R.

V25V · 27 July 2018, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

I've called almost ALL US ads, and I mean ALL of them. Called about 2-3 weeks ago and got the following data.

I'd imagine its worse if its a blue one.

Here's a quick peak at my analysis:

error: 5164, is supposed to be 5164R.

Wow! That's some serious data!

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thomaspp · 27 July 2018, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

I've called almost ALL US ads, and I mean ALL of them. Called about 2-3 weeks ago and got the following data.

I'd imagine its worse if its a blue one.

Here's a quick peak at my analysis:

error: 5164, is supposed to be 5164R.

The new luxury watch buying experience! Lol

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watchtabs · 27 July 2018, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaspp

The new luxury watch buying experience! Lol

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Indeed ☹️

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Kittayos · 27 July 2018, 10:03 AM

To have a relationship, you need to buy something from them first. This is crucial imo.

Talked to a few ADs and asked how many people phone or walk-in asking for 5711/5712. 4 ADs I have recently visited said the same thing. It is 4-5 people. You know they only receive 1-2 pieces per year. You calculate that by 365. The number is almost 2k. The chance is 0.1% now. It is again back the relationship thing and of course to have such a relationship, you know what to do.

watchtabs · 27 July 2018, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kittayos

To have a relationship, you need to buy something from them first. This is crucial imo.

Talked to a few ADs and asked how many people phone or walk-in asking for 5711/5712. 4 ADs I have recently visited said the same thing. It is 4-5 people. You know they only receive 1-2 pieces per year. You calculate that by 365. The number is almost 2k. The chance is 0.1% now. It is again back the relationship thing and of course to have such a relationship, you know what to do.

Yea, buy their non-popular pieces no that one can or wants to buy.

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Fat_ninja · 27 July 2018, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

I've called almost ALL US ads, and I mean ALL of them. Called about 2-3 weeks ago and got the following data.

I'd imagine its worse if its a blue one.

Here's a quick peak at my analysis:

error: 5164, is supposed to be 5164R.

Ehat are the columns? % add up to much more than 100%.

goog53 · 27 July 2018, 10:50 AM

Watchtabs...where did you get the 5167A and 5712/1A from?

appa666 · 27 July 2018, 11:39 AM

There are 2 ads willing to take your deposit at least you get your name on the list!
Personal experience, as long as AD lets you put down deposit, its only a matter of time for receiving it.
Could be years but eventually you will get it.

GB-man · 27 July 2018, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goog53

Watchtabs...where did you get the 5167A and 5712/1A from?

TRF of course!

Luxury today is in its purest form. Getting what you want when you want requires $$$. Buy the other watches first or go straight to it and pay the cost upfront.

I hate the current form I prefer when everyone else is broke and I can exploit the market with my small liquid bank

goog53 · 27 July 2018, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

TRF of course!

Luxury today is in its purest form. Getting what you want when you want requires $$$. Buy the other watches first or go straight to it and pay the cost upfront.

I hate the current form I prefer when everyone else is broke and I can exploit the market with my small liquid bank

V25V · 27 July 2018, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Ehat are the columns? % add up to much more than 100%.

Really?

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porschejeff · 27 July 2018, 12:21 PM

I am on a waitlist. The AD said about a 2 year wait. I was told they get in 4-5 per year. I am number 10 on the list.

watchtabs · 27 July 2018, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goog53

Watchtabs...where did you get the 5167A and 5712/1A from?

5167 I got before it got crazy. 5712 I bought at premium from grey, new.

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goog53 · 27 July 2018, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by watchtabs

5167 I got before it got crazy. 5712 I bought at premium from grey, new.

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Stop paying the premiums Bro and just be patient for the White dial. You have two stunners IMO

watchtabs · 27 July 2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Stop paying the premiums Bro and just be patient for the White dial. You have two stunners IMO

I’d wait if I could get into a list. Flat out no on the white. They only took deposits on 5164R and 5726.

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kneedeep · 27 July 2018, 01:39 PM

Epochs for mere mortals, years for big spenders, instantaneous for celebrities and other PP VIPS.

Tay821 · 28 July 2018, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goog53

Stop paying the premiums Bro and just be patient for the White dial. You have two stunners IMO

Well if he has his inner peace it's never too expensive

goog53 · 28 July 2018, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

They only took deposits on 5164R and 5726.
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Did you put deposits down on Both?

27 July 2018, 03:55 AM	#1
oysterflexer Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Guelph, On Watch: SOON. Posts: 104	SS 5711 current ballpark wait time? What's the wait time on average for a PP SS 5711 at the AD? Is there anywhere in the world where it might be a shorter wait? Also, is the list price 25k USD? Thanks

27 July 2018, 04:29 AM	#3
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	Hey, The list price is almost 30K, the waiting time depends really on how good your relationship is with your AD, if you have a good relationship you might get it within a short period of time, but they average from 1 to 3yrs and sometimes longer too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

27 July 2018, 07:24 AM	#10
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	If you buy a 5270, immediately as it is in the safe. If you don’t buy anything else, years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

27 July 2018, 08:08 AM	#12
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	I've called almost ALL US ads, and I mean ALL of them. Called about 2-3 weeks ago and got the following data. I'd imagine its worse if its a blue one. Here's a quick peak at my analysis: error: 5164, is supposed to be 5164R. __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

27 July 2018, 10:50 AM	#19
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,062	Watchtabs...where did you get the 5167A and 5712/1A from? __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

27 July 2018, 04:27 AM	#2
watchbowl "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: U.K. Posts: 469	Depending on your relationship a few weeks to never. (I’m on the never timescale at the moment as I can’t even get on the list) No such thing as an ‘average’ wait with this model!

27 July 2018, 05:11 AM	#4
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	Long enough to change your mind.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

27 July 2018, 05:20 AM	#5
tng11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 3,629	Without a pre-existing relationship, the multi year "wait time" is basically a polite way of telling you it's never happening. Some ADs simply have these things sitting in the safe waiting for the right client, while others may wait a few months to a few years. And most ADs will only want to deal with people in their specific area, so you'll have little luck trying to "forum shop" as well.

27 July 2018, 05:54 AM	#6
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,127	I just surveyed all ADs globally and the wait is longer than you’d like

27 July 2018, 06:39 AM	#8
Commonproject Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 281	If AD tells you more than a year it means they will never call you, even in 10 years, unless you buy something from them. Had 1 AD tell me they'd be willing to bump me up to near the top if I bought a 5205g

27 July 2018, 07:13 AM	#9
Helmi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Doha Posts: 2,065	The wait time for me is the ETA the dealer will give you after accepting a deposit on the watch. Without deposit it is just not going to happen

27 July 2018, 10:03 AM	#16
Kittayos "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Bkk Posts: 311	To have a relationship, you need to buy something from them first. This is crucial imo. Talked to a few ADs and asked how many people phone or walk-in asking for 5711/5712. 4 ADs I have recently visited said the same thing. It is 4-5 people. You know they only receive 1-2 pieces per year. You calculate that by 365. The number is almost 2k. The chance is 0.1% now. It is again back the relationship thing and of course to have such a relationship, you know what to do.

27 July 2018, 11:39 AM	#20
appa666 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: CN&CA Posts: 146	There are 2 ads willing to take your deposit at least you get your name on the list! Personal experience, as long as AD lets you put down deposit, its only a matter of time for receiving it. Could be years but eventually you will get it.

27 July 2018, 12:21 PM	#24
porschejeff "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Michigan Watch: DD 228238 Posts: 2,456	I am on a waitlist. The AD said about a 2 year wait. I was told they get in 4-5 per year. I am number 10 on the list.

27 July 2018, 01:39 PM	#28
kneedeep "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Not 2 far from u Posts: 3,457	Epochs for mere mortals, years for big spenders, instantaneous for celebrities and other PP VIPS. __________________ Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018

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