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Cosa · 9 September 2018, 10:11 PM

Hello

Purchased my first Rolex last December. A new stainless submariner with a black dial. Crazy story, but I had been thinking about it for quite a while and finally decided on the sub after quite a bit of research. It was a Saturday morning and I decided to call an AD and see if they had one. They did and I went in and bought it. It was as simple as that. I had no idea how lucky I was. No waiting list, just walked in and bought it. And I had no relationship with that dealer whatsoever. Had never been in the store before.

Anyway life has not been the same since and I am now looking for a GMT with the blue and black bezel. Needless to say, just walking in a AD and buying one is not going to happen but I'm really still in research mode which leads me to my question. I've searched the net and this forum and haven't been able to come up with a definitive answer.

Does the reference number etched on the case between the lugs at 12oclock indicate the color of bezel that is original to the watch? At this point in my research I don't think it does. I think it indicates the type of bezel but not the color.

So, how do you know if a black bezel wasn't swapped with a blue and black one subsequent to manufacture?

Kindest Regards,
H

Scapegoat · 9 September 2018, 10:16 PM

Hi Friend, enjoy your watch and don’t rush into the next one.

watchmaker · 9 September 2018, 10:25 PM

You are correct, the model reference on the case '116710' makes no reference to the bezel.

Your assurance that the bezel hasn't been switched is buying from an AD. It is simply not worth the effort and risk to their account if they are caught.

Snow-Dweller · 9 September 2018, 10:30 PM

The black & blue is called BLNR. It’s written on the guarantee card.

waikeekee · 9 September 2018, 10:37 PM

Green GMT hand: 116710LN
Blue GMT hand: 116710BLNR

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Cosa · 9 September 2018, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow-Dweller

The black & blue is called BLNR. It’s written on the guarantee card.

So to verify you would match the serial number etched on the case to the serial number on the guarantee card which would have the bezel designation.

Now I understand how important original papers are when buying used.

Thanks......

watchmaker · 9 September 2018, 10:47 PM

The blue/black bezel is by exchange only from Rolex. You cannot order it without returning the old bezel so the chances of this swap/scam happening are next to zero. If you suspect the person you are buying from would do this I think you should be buying from somewhere else.

brandrea · 9 September 2018, 10:49 PM

Welcome

dmhines · 9 September 2018, 10:56 PM

Swapping Ceramic bezels is not simple or cheap. If it was .. there'd be a ton of Ceramic Kermits running around ...

Cosa · 9 September 2018, 10:57 PM

Thanks again. I really don't suspect but just needed an understanding of how to verify. It just seems crazy that the GMT with a BLNR bezel is so available online but not at an AD.

Nikrnic · 10 September 2018, 08:50 AM

Blnr also has a blue 24 hr. hand with all white script print on the dial. Gmt Ln has a green 24 hr. hand and a line of green script on the dial.

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Jsanders1985 · 10 September 2018, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikrnic

Blnr also has a blue 24 hr. hand with all white script print on the dial. Gmt Ln has a green 24 hr. hand and a line of green script on the dial.

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This!

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watchwatcher · 10 September 2018, 09:41 AM

If you are buying one from somebody where you need to ask this question, don't buy it.

9 September 2018, 10:11 PM	#1
Cosa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 4	Intro and Bezel question Hello Purchased my first Rolex last December. A new stainless submariner with a black dial. Crazy story, but I had been thinking about it for quite a while and finally decided on the sub after quite a bit of research. It was a Saturday morning and I decided to call an AD and see if they had one. They did and I went in and bought it. It was as simple as that. I had no idea how lucky I was. No waiting list, just walked in and bought it. And I had no relationship with that dealer whatsoever. Had never been in the store before. Anyway life has not been the same since and I am now looking for a GMT with the blue and black bezel. Needless to say, just walking in a AD and buying one is not going to happen but I'm really still in research mode which leads me to my question. I've searched the net and this forum and haven't been able to come up with a definitive answer. Does the reference number etched on the case between the lugs at 12oclock indicate the color of bezel that is original to the watch? At this point in my research I don't think it does. I think it indicates the type of bezel but not the color. So, how do you know if a black bezel wasn't swapped with a blue and black one subsequent to manufacture? Kindest Regards, H

9 September 2018, 10:30 PM	#4
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,281	The black & blue is called BLNR. It’s written on the guarantee card. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. BB58. GMW-B5000D.

9 September 2018, 10:56 PM	#9
dmhines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Atlanta Watch: Milgauss / GMT II Posts: 464	Swapping Ceramic bezels is not simple or cheap. If it was .. there'd be a ton of Ceramic Kermits running around ... __________________ . Rolex Milgauss Black GV / Rolex GMT II Slate Serti Rolex 2-Line Submariner / Bell & Ross 03-94 RS17 Breitling SOH II - Brown 42 / Breitling 806 Re-Edition

9 September 2018, 10:16 PM	#2
Scapegoat "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Lee Location: South East Asia Watch: Tudor Pro Posts: 1,783	Hi Friend, enjoy your watch and don’t rush into the next one.

9 September 2018, 10:25 PM	#3
watchmaker TechXpert Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: London Posts: 2,240	You are correct, the model reference on the case '116710' makes no reference to the bezel. Your assurance that the bezel hasn't been switched is buying from an AD. It is simply not worth the effort and risk to their account if they are caught.

9 September 2018, 10:37 PM	#5
waikeekee "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Ubi Posts: 619	Green GMT hand: 116710LN Blue GMT hand: 116710BLNR Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 September 2018, 10:47 PM	#7
watchmaker TechXpert Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: London Posts: 2,240	The blue/black bezel is by exchange only from Rolex. You cannot order it without returning the old bezel so the chances of this swap/scam happening are next to zero. If you suspect the person you are buying from would do this I think you should be buying from somewhere else.

9 September 2018, 10:49 PM	#8
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 74,699	Welcome

9 September 2018, 10:57 PM	#10
Cosa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 4	Thanks again. I really don't suspect but just needed an understanding of how to verify. It just seems crazy that the GMT with a BLNR bezel is so available online but not at an AD.

10 September 2018, 08:50 AM	#11
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,161	Blnr also has a blue 24 hr. hand with all white script print on the dial. Gmt Ln has a green 24 hr. hand and a line of green script on the dial. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

10 September 2018, 09:41 AM	#13
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,604	If you are buying one from somebody where you need to ask this question, don't buy it.

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