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iamjakekim · 1 October 2018, 12:31 PM

Recently picked up a 16610 (z serial - 2006/7) and noticed a minor defect on the dial.

There is a really tiny crack/gap on the 2 O'Clock lume, and although I am not planning to replace the dial, which I believe could cost $600, I want to better understand what's causing it to crack (unless it's been there since it was manufactured).

Any chance the dial itself will deteoriate further and will develop more cracks? Also have you seen any "not so new" rolex watches develop such cracks?

Close up shot

shaunylw · 1 October 2018, 12:40 PM

Looks like more of a defect than an indicator that the dial is aging. If it really bothers you i would get another dial and keep the original.

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J_1964 · 1 October 2018, 12:46 PM

How did you even notice this? It's SO Small. I'd forget about it, it's so minor.

iamjakekim · 1 October 2018, 12:55 PM

Exactly. It is quite small and I can live with it.

I was more concerned with the fact that if the dial is indeed cracking/aging and I definitely don't want small particles get into the movement and mess up the watch.

Likestheshiny · 1 October 2018, 12:57 PM

Well, cracked or crumbling lume is definitely a thing that you see on vintage watches. It has to start somewhere, and your watch is no longer "young." Seems like something you could just ask about at your next service, though.

Dirt · 1 October 2018, 01:09 PM

Blind freddie can see it's a manufacturing defect.
There's no crack or bits crumbling appart.
The dial was simply born that way as that lume plot didn't get filled right up.

JacksonStone · 1 October 2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

Well, cracked or crumbling lume is definitely a thing that you see on vintage watches. It has to start somewhere, and your watch is no longer "young." Seems like something you could just ask about at your next service, though.

You see cracking and crumbling on radium and tritium lume because the radioactivity degrades the paint. I have yet to hear of it happening on Super Luminova or other non-radioactive lume. This looks like the paint did not properly fill in when applied, which I suspect was there from the beginning.

iamjakekim · 1 October 2018, 02:00 PM

I definitely hope it is a defect rather than a sign of aging. As long as it stays the way it is, I will not get the dial replaced (no risk of flakes getting into the movement).

I guess I will make that special trip to RSC next Friday! Wanted to triple check it's safe wearing it without getting the dial replaced.

Andad · 1 October 2018, 03:10 PM

I agree with it being the manufacturing defect.

Ask a RSC for advice?

They may even replace it.

peterpl · 1 October 2018, 03:37 PM

How did you see this? This is why looking at ANY rolex under a loupe is a bad bad idea.

Dirt · 1 October 2018, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

I agree with it being the manufacturing defect.

Ask a RSC for advice?

They may even replace it.

Surely not this far down the track.
Especially since the OP is not the original owner.
And i doubt it would fundamentally affect the functionality of the watch

Andad · 1 October 2018, 05:32 PM

Is there any harm in asking?

Clearly a QC issue.

Rolex have protected their QC in the past and a Z is not an old Rolex.

toxicavenger · 2 October 2018, 12:57 AM

Wow did you really have to magnify this to see this issue?

1 October 2018, 12:31 PM	#1
iamjakekim "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Washington DC Watch: 114060 & 16610 Posts: 47	Dial Lume defect/ageing on my 16610!!! Recently picked up a 16610 (z serial - 2006/7) and noticed a minor defect on the dial. There is a really tiny crack/gap on the 2 O'Clock lume, and although I am not planning to replace the dial, which I believe could cost $600, I want to better understand what's causing it to crack (unless it's been there since it was manufactured). Any chance the dial itself will deteoriate further and will develop more cracks? Also have you seen any "not so new" rolex watches develop such cracks? Close up shot

1 October 2018, 03:10 PM	#9
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,952	I agree with it being the manufacturing defect. Ask a RSC for advice? They may even replace it. __________________ E

1 October 2018, 05:32 PM	#12
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,952	Is there any harm in asking? Clearly a QC issue. Rolex have protected their QC in the past and a Z is not an old Rolex. __________________ E

1 October 2018, 12:40 PM	#2
shaunylw "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Here Posts: 4,521	Looks like more of a defect than an indicator that the dial is aging. If it really bothers you i would get another dial and keep the original. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 October 2018, 12:46 PM	#3
J_1964 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Jim Location: NoCal USA Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,955	How did you even notice this? It's SO Small. I'd forget about it, it's so minor.

1 October 2018, 12:55 PM	#4
iamjakekim "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Washington DC Watch: 114060 & 16610 Posts: 47	Exactly. It is quite small and I can live with it. I was more concerned with the fact that if the dial is indeed cracking/aging and I definitely don't want small particles get into the movement and mess up the watch.

1 October 2018, 12:57 PM	#5
Likestheshiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: _ Posts: 1,877	Well, cracked or crumbling lume is definitely a thing that you see on vintage watches. It has to start somewhere, and your watch is no longer "young." Seems like something you could just ask about at your next service, though.

1 October 2018, 01:09 PM	#6
Dirt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brisbane Watch: DSSD Posts: 7,907	Blind freddie can see it's a manufacturing defect. There's no crack or bits crumbling appart. The dial was simply born that way as that lume plot didn't get filled right up.

1 October 2018, 02:00 PM	#8
iamjakekim "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Washington DC Watch: 114060 & 16610 Posts: 47	I definitely hope it is a defect rather than a sign of aging. As long as it stays the way it is, I will not get the dial replaced (no risk of flakes getting into the movement). I guess I will make that special trip to RSC next Friday! Wanted to triple check it's safe wearing it without getting the dial replaced.

1 October 2018, 03:37 PM	#10
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	How did you see this? This is why looking at ANY rolex under a loupe is a bad bad idea.

2 October 2018, 12:57 AM	#13
toxicavenger "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Colorado Springs Watch: Seiko's Posts: 2,563	Wow did you really have to magnify this to see this issue?

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