question re a 16613

[rolexferrari8]

i have 1996 16613 bought used. it has no lume left and the mag is not up to snuff. it was authenticated by an AD. if i sent it to a RSC would they fix the lume and mag?

[SS Oyster]

What do you mean by mag?


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[J!m]

I’m guessing magnification?

I think there was some mixed up crystal gaskets where the crystal would sit a touch lower and reduce the magnification a bit. Or you t could be an aftermarket crystal.

[rolexferrari8]

Originally Posted by J!m

I’m guessing magnification?

I think there was some mixed up crystal gaskets where the crystal would sit a touch lower and reduce the magnification a bit. Or you t could be an aftermarket crystal.

Yeah low mag. It also has a small scratch on it I accidently dinged it on a door. You can only see it in certain light. And yeah very possible could be aftermarket crystal given the age of the timepiece. When they authenticate I'm assuming they make sure the movement is all genuine rolex but I doubt they go through every little piece. Anyway, would do u think? I think it is well worth 1000$ to me if I could send it to a RSC and get a proper mag and the dial re-tritiumed (less care about the lume act but the mag and a polish would be nice).

[J!m]

When it was authenticated they did not give you a quote? That’s unusual.

But I’d ask for a complete overhaul, with detailed and specific direction NOT to replace things like dial and hands. Otherwise, assuming they do it (they refuse older watches more and more these days), they will replace both with luminova. Some like this idea for a glowing dial on a vintage watch but it does reduce resale value and demand.

Some pictures would be nice...

[rolexferrari8]

Originally Posted by J!m

When it was authenticated they did not give you a quote? That’s unusual.

But I’d ask for a complete overhaul, with detailed and specific direction NOT to replace things like dial and hands. Otherwise, assuming they do it (they refuse older watches more and more these days), they will replace both with luminova. Some like this idea for a glowing dial on a vintage watch but it does reduce resale value and demand.

Some pictures would be nice...

Yes they did give me a quote ~7K I think give or take. Heres a few pics -

[rolexferrari8]

Originally Posted by J!m

When it was authenticated they did not give you a quote? That’s unusual.

But I’d ask for a complete overhaul, with detailed and specific direction NOT to replace things like dial and hands. Otherwise, assuming they do it (they refuse older watches more and more these days), they will replace both with luminova. Some like this idea for a glowing dial on a vintage watch but it does reduce resale value and demand.

Some pictures would be nice...

https://imgur.com/a/MWDL2na

I needed 10 posts to post a link lol

PS u can see the scratch on the mag as well. its really off mag wise which bothers the hell out of me.

[watchwatcher]

I would send it in to get a service and replace the crystal. But the lume, I wouldn't mess with that. As Jim pointed out above, you want to keep your dial and hands original. Just my thoughts.

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by rolexferrari8

https://imgur.com/a/MWDL2na

I needed 10 posts to post a link lol

PS u can see the scratch on the mag as well. its really off mag wise which bothers the hell out of me.

Not much, if any, magnification there at all
I’m assuming you could send it in and request a new dial and crystal if you want, but they won’t give you back the original dial.
7k usd sounds outrageously high

[ltmgeller]

I thought I read somewhere that Dallas RSC would return vintage parts if requested. RSC won't relume a dial, they will just replace it.

[Notoperator]

Would love to see if they recharge the lume

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by mjclark32

Not much, if any, magnification there at all
I’m assuming you could send it in and request a new dial and crystal if you want, but they won’t give you back the original dial.
7k usd sounds outrageously high

$7K sounds like their estimate on the value of the watch for shipping purposes. They should have given you a list of what is being replaced at that price. I thought the $1500 price for the service of my wife's Tudor lady mini sub was outrageous. That included replacement of hands, dial, and crystal. In here situation the dial and hands were also depleted tritium and received Luminova replacements. I'd look at using one of our members (watch makers with a parts account) to do the job and skip Rolex with that price tag.

[rolexferrari8]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

$7K sounds like their estimate on the value of the watch for shipping purposes. They should have given you a list of what is being replaced at that price. I thought the $1500 price for the service of my wife's Tudor lady mini sub was outrageous. That included replacement of hands, dial, and crystal. In here situation the dial and hands were also depleted tritium and received Luminova replacements. I'd look at using one of our members (watch makers with a parts account) to do the job and skip Rolex with that price tag.

No sorry I havent gotten an estimate im saying that when the authenticated the watch they appraised it at around 7K for insurance purposes. If I go into an AD will they give me an estimate of what it would cost to replace the crystal and polish out the scratches? Id rather keep the original dial then have them replace it then idc that much about lume.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by rolexferrari8

No sorry I havent gotten an estimate im saying that when the authenticated the watch they appraised it at around 7K for insurance purposes. If I go into an AD will they give me an estimate of what it would cost to replace the crystal and polish out the scratches? Id rather keep the original dial then have them replace it then idc that much about lume.

Replace the bezel insert also. Judging by the pip, it is aftermarket and not genuine. Keep dial and hands original. Do service, replace crystal.

[rolexferrari8]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Replace the bezel insert also. Judging by the pip, it is aftermarket and not genuine. Keep dial and hands original. Do service, replace crystal.

I think I will do it. Question how can u tell its aftermarket? And what do I do just bring watch to AD and say hey can u send this to RSC this is what I want done?

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by rolexferrari8

I think I will do it. Question how can u tell its aftermarket? And what do I do just bring watch to AD and say hey can u send this to RSC this is what I want done?

Contact RSC Dallas (preferred) or NYC and talk to them. They can send a special watch mailing box with instructions. This way you deal with the RSC yourself. If you take your watch to the AD, they are the ones that communicate with RSC, leaving you out of the loop.
Also Rik @ Time Care Inc. In Florida is an excellent independent watchmaker who uses Rolex parts if you decide on an independent. He is very good at his work, and accessible by phone.

[R!$]

Ask them to replace the dial and the sapphire crystal

[doubleclass]

I would definitely send it in and get the crystal replaced.