The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 6 January 2019, 12:27 PM   #1
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
HELP: Crystal appears higher after bezel change?

I recently purchased my first Rolex, a pre-owned Datejust 116200 from a third-generation, family-owned jeweler in Jupiter, Florida. I purchased the watch with a domed bezel, but wanted it changed for a fluted one.

The jeweler I bought the watch from ordered me a 14k white gold fluted bezel and had their watchmaker put it on for me. I love how how it looks, but with this bezel I noticed that the actual height of my crystal appears much greater than it did with the domed.

Is this normal? Below are some photos — I don’t have one of the side-view of the watch with the domed bezel.

So, what do you guys think? Does the crystal height look normal or off?
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 12:44 PM   #2
Badfish6
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 5
Where did they get the bezel from??
Badfish6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 12:50 PM   #3
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badfish6 View Post
Where did they get the bezel from??
When he was ordering it he asked if I wanted it to be an OEM Rolex one or just any, and I speciafically asked for the OEM. Hoping that’s what I got. Here’s a photo of the tag that came with the bezel.
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg 4883F9F7-48C3-40F1-A01E-5DB7BC07C8B7.jpeg (47.9 KB, 1003 views)
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 02:15 PM   #4
inadeje
2024 Pledge Member
 
inadeje's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Miami
Watch: me lose count.
Posts: 5,575
Looks fine but, I’m wondering if the crystal was changed at some point?
__________________
♛ 116689 ♛ 116500LN Blk ♛ 116500LN Wht ♛ Sky Dweller 326934-003 ♛ 126710BLNR ♛ 126710BLRO - ♛ 126610LV ♛ 16520 ♛ 16523 ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1A-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Fiddy 127, Bronzo 671, 687, 111, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Daniel Roth Endurer Chronosprint, Cartier Santos XL - ✿ Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze M79012M, Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41
inadeje is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 02:18 PM   #5
toxicavenger
"TRF" Member
 
toxicavenger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Watch: Seiko's
Posts: 2,563
Looks stock to me.
toxicavenger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 02:39 PM   #6
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by inadeje View Post
Looks fine but, I’m wondering if the crystal was changed at some point?
Good to hear. If it was then it was replaced with an OEM Rolex crystal because it does have th etched crown near the 6:00 point.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 02:40 PM   #7
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by toxicavenger View Post
Looks stock to me.
Awesome, thank you for helping clear up my paranoia.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 02:47 PM   #8
HogwldFLTR
2024 Pledge Member
 
HogwldFLTR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Real Name: Lee
Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48
Watch: What's on my wrist
Posts: 33,256
To me the bezel tag looks like it says 14k; I'm not certain about modern Rolex watches using 14k. I'm also not familiar with anything other than acrylic crystals sticking up like that. Something seems off, is it really a six digit Rolex?
__________________
Troglodyte in residence!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599
HogwldFLTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 02:58 PM   #9
RJRJRJ
"TRF" Member
 
RJRJRJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3,495
$375 is way too cheap for an OEM Rolex gold bezel.
RJRJRJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 02:59 PM   #10
Annan
"TRF" Member
 
Annan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Real Name: Ron
Location: Arizona, USA
Watch: 116233
Posts: 3,177
1. The crystal appears to sit too high IMO.
2. The bezel should be 18K gold if it's truly OEM.
__________________
so many Rolexes.....so little time
Annan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:00 PM   #11
Jackumi
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Real Name: John
Location: Yokohama
Watch: 116613LB, 116713LN
Posts: 218
It does not look right to me, I have just compared your picture to the fluted bezel on my 36mm DJ. Your bezel looks thinner and the angle of the bezel is definitely more shallow than mine. You can see what I mean if you look at bezels on other DJ's, from sale or on Rolex website.
Jackumi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:00 PM   #12
toxicavenger
"TRF" Member
 
toxicavenger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Watch: Seiko's
Posts: 2,563
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbreyette View Post
Awesome, thank you for helping clear up my paranoia.
If you have any doubts get them to pressure test it.
toxicavenger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:01 PM   #13
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR View Post
To me the bezel tag looks like it says 14k; I'm not certain about modern Rolex watches using 14k. I'm also not familiar with anything other than acrylic crystals sticking up like that. Something seems off, is it really a six digit Rolex?
According to the paperwork I have it’s a six digit, and the features of the bracelet and “Rolex Rolex Rolex + serial number” engraving on the inner rim are are characteristic of the newer models.

Before the bezel was changed it never appeared to “stick up” like that. With the domed one it looked totally normal to me, but lots of people have also told me it looks normal this way.

As far as the 14k bezel I’m really not sure. I would hope the jeweler orderered me and OEM bezel, but I can’t be sure.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:02 PM   #14
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annan View Post
1. The crystal appears to sit too high IMO.
2. The bezel should be 18K gold if it's truly OEM.
Is the crystal not placed back in the watch correctly do you think or is the bezel not being an OEM Rolex one causing it to look too high?
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:03 PM   #15
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by RJRJRJ View Post
$375 is way too cheap for an OEM Rolex gold bezel.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackumi View Post
It does not look right to me, I have just compared your picture to the fluted bezel on my 36mm DJ. Your bezel looks thinner and the angle of the bezel is definitely more shallow than mine. You can see what I mean if you look at bezels on other DJ's, from sale or on Rolex website.
So definitely seeming like we have a non-OEM bezel on our hands. That’s what’s causing the crystal to look so high?
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:04 PM   #16
Frakis
2024 Pledge Member
 
Frakis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: USA
Posts: 2,826
Crystal appears higher after bezel change?

An OEM 18ct white gold fluted bezel costs much more than $375. IMO, it’s not OEM. Rolex doesn’t tag their stuff like that. It would come in a sealed plastic blister casing.
__________________
Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.
Frakis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:07 PM   #17
AdamG
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Real Name: Adam
Location: HNL, LDN, SHA
Watch: 5 digit ref
Posts: 397
Bad move..... You should have just inserted your money into the drain
AdamG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:07 PM   #18
RJRJRJ
"TRF" Member
 
RJRJRJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3,495
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbreyette View Post
So definitely seeming like we have a non-OEM bezel on our hands. That’s what’s causing the crystal to look so high?

An OEM fluted bezel should have nice deep ridges with very sharp and crisp peaks. Yours does not have either of those. So to answer your question, yes.
RJRJRJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:09 PM   #19
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frakis View Post
An OEM 18k white gold fluted bezel costs much more than $375. IMO, it’s not OEM. Rolex doesn’t tag their stuff like that. It would come in a sealed plastic blister casing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RJRJRJ View Post
An OEM fluted bezel should have nice deep ridges with very sharp and crisp peaks. Yours does not have either of those. So to answer your question, yes.
Where can I purchase an OEM bezel myself so I know it’s real?
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:10 PM   #20
TswaneNguni
"TRF" Member
 
TswaneNguni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Real Name: Chris
Location: .
Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs
Posts: 12,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annan View Post
1. The crystal appears to sit too high IMO.
2. The bezel should be 18K gold if it's truly OEM.
Agreed and the bezel ridges looks flattish .

Is it an AD that you dealt with ?
TswaneNguni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:12 PM   #21
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamG View Post
Bad move..... You should have just inserted your money into the drain
I plan on going to the jeweler, getting my OEM domed one put back on, and telling him I know the fluted one is aftermarket and that I’ll take a refund. Easy fix.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:13 PM   #22
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by TswaneNguni View Post
Agreed and the bezel ridges looks flattish .

Is it an AD that you dealt with ?
No, not an AD — just a jewelry store my mom has gone to for custom
diamond pieces and her pre-owner Rolexes for years.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:16 PM   #23
Annan
"TRF" Member
 
Annan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Real Name: Ron
Location: Arizona, USA
Watch: 116233
Posts: 3,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbreyette View Post
Is the crystal not placed back in the watch correctly do you think or is the bezel not being an OEM Rolex one causing it to look too high?
I'm no expert but would guess it's most likely the bezel. At one time Rolex did use 14K gold on some models. However, I can assure you all the 6 digit references, such as yours appears to be, only use 18K.
__________________
so many Rolexes.....so little time
Annan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:17 PM   #24
Frakis
2024 Pledge Member
 
Frakis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: USA
Posts: 2,826
Crystal appears higher after bezel change?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbreyette View Post
Where can I purchase an OEM bezel myself so I know it’s real?


The only way to get any OEM Rolex parts are from an AD, independent watchmaker with a Rolex part account or Rolex Service Center. I’m not even sure RSC will change it out for you without requiring a full service which will run you about $900 including taxes and shipping.
__________________
Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.
Frakis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:17 PM   #25
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annan View Post
I'm no expert but would guess it's most likely the bezel. At one time Rolex did use 14K gold on some models. However, I can assure you all the 6 digit references, such as yours appears to be, only use 18K.
Thanks for the help. I’m gonna go back to my domed one.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:19 PM   #26
mdx77
"TRF" Member
 
mdx77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Real Name: Kurt
Location: Philly Burbs!!
Posts: 3,296
Good Luck! .....and nice Cartier Trinity bracelet BTW
__________________
“This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the BLUE pill - the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the RED pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.”

Rolex Submariner 116610LV Hulk | Rolex GMT 16710 Pepsi | Omega Speedmaster “Speedy Tuesday” | Tudor Black Bay 79220R “ETA Rose” | Tudor Pelagos Blue Dial | Rolex Submariner Yellow Gold 116618LB | Rolex Milgauss “Z-Blue” 116400GV
mdx77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:19 PM   #27
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frakis View Post
The only way to get one is from an AD, independent watchmaker with a Rolex part account or Rolex Service Center. I’m not even sure RSC will change it out for you without requiring a full device which will run you about $900 including taxes and shipping.
Thanks so much. If I miss the fluted terribly when I switch back to my domed I’ll go to Tourneau this time for a new one.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:20 PM   #28
jbreyette
"TRF" Member
 
jbreyette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Real Name: Julian
Location: South Florida
Watch: 126333
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdx77 View Post
Good Luck! .....and nice Cartier Trinity bracelet BTW
Thanks! I thought the black ceramic and black cord complimented the black watch face nicely.
jbreyette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:22 PM   #29
TswaneNguni
"TRF" Member
 
TswaneNguni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Real Name: Chris
Location: .
Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs
Posts: 12,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbreyette View Post
No, not an AD — just a jewelry store my mom has gone to for custom
diamond pieces and her pre-owner Rolexes for years.
My opinion ..the watchmaker damaged the original crystal when he installed the fluted third party bezel.He then installed a third party crystal .

You are decreasing the value of your Rolex.
TswaneNguni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 January 2019, 03:22 PM   #30
Frakis
2024 Pledge Member
 
Frakis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: USA
Posts: 2,826
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbreyette View Post
Thanks so much. If I miss the fluted terribly when I switch back to my domed I’ll go to Tourneau this time for a new one.


They won’t sell you anything that didn’t come originally on your watch. Rolex used to be more lenient on the datejusts (like changing dials out). They have become more strict with their policy’s over the years.
__________________
Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.
Frakis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

Bernard Watches

Takuya Watches

Asset Appeal

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.