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dobbie · 4 March 2009, 06:33 AM

I came across this watch a little while ago and I am wondering if it is a fake. I have the feeling it is though I am not too worried about it if it is. The price was right. I have taken it to a jewelers who wasnt too sure on it. any opinions please? and if it is a fake can I have any info on what makes it say fake so I know in the future. Thanx I am new to all this here to learn something new.

2careless · 4 March 2009, 07:42 AM

Welcome to the forum!

From my amateur view, the minute hand is supposed to be longer touching the end of the stick while not covering the lume on the minute marker.

aelvin · 4 March 2009, 07:45 AM

nowadays with the new Rolex Rep, even a jeweler can hardly tell. I suggest you bring it to a Rolex AD.

goduke1 · 4 March 2009, 07:51 AM

I myself new to the fourm and Rolex.

The lettering on the clasp looks off center and not lined up straight. It dosn't look right to me, but someone will come along shortly and give more info. These guys and gals are pretty good.

JPersat · 4 March 2009, 08:06 AM

The date looks not right to me

dobbie · 4 March 2009, 08:07 AM

after reviewing my post i noticed the pics to be a bit . well. not so good. hopefully these pics are more clear and can help. Thanx for the replies by the way. i appreciate it. By the way..the watch is pretty scratched up.

tudorman8276 · 4 March 2009, 08:31 AM

...aftermarket/counterfeit (same meaning).

...additionally, if it is a vintage DJ, then the case back SHOULD HAVE stampings on it, which I do NOT see.

...take the watch back to the jeweler and ask him to remove the band. There should be numbers on both ends of the watch case and let us know what they are. Likewise, there may be a wording alsostamped above the numbers.

...let us know.

...so far what I have seen, I would say this is a counterfeit.

Stan.

dobbie · 4 March 2009, 08:56 AM

thank you so much for the info. I metal detect for a hobby and it was one of my finds. Thats what my feeling on it was to " Fake"

Anyhow I got me a new watch lol.

JPersat · 4 March 2009, 08:57 AM

You paid the best price....lol

dobbie · 4 March 2009, 09:42 AM

ya i think so I love the hobby. I do want to learn about watches though. I feel it will go good with my hobby knowing what is what when I find it so I dont have to bother you fine folks on here with garbage.

You all are very knowledgable (SP?) and I am grateful for the help.

Chozn1 · 4 March 2009, 09:45 AM

The crown's not lined up perfectly with at the 12 o'clock mark either. Enjoy your find though.

onkyo · 4 March 2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tudorman8276

...aftermarket/counterfeit (same meaning).

...additionally, if it is a vintage DJ, then the case back SHOULD HAVE stampings on it, which I do NOT see.

...take the watch back to the jeweler and ask him to remove the band. There should be numbers on both ends of the watch case and let us know what they are. Likewise, there may be a wording alsostamped above the numbers.

...let us know.

...so far what I have seen, I would say this is a counterfeit.

Stan.

Excellent.

goduke1 · 4 March 2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tudorman8276

...aftermarket/counterfeit (same meaning).

Stan, assuming your speaking on the bracelet, I have to disagree with this statement. Those two words mean two totally different things.

In this case, it's a counterfeit bracelet, because it says Rolex on it and isn't, therefore copyright infringement and counterfeit.

Had it not said Rolex, it would be aftermarket, but not counterfeit.

RolexPete32 · 4 March 2009, 01:00 PM

That second hand is too short for sure. A dead giveaway!!!

The date window looks off centre.

I see the little hooks in one of your pictures of how the bracelet connects to the case. I am not 100% sure but I feel this is common for fakes as I understand it Rolex bracelets connect clean to the case or what is commonly called a flush fit. Experts correct me if I am wrong.

tudorman8276 · 4 March 2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goduke1

Stan, assuming your speaking on the bracelet, I have to disagree with this statement. Those two words mean two totally different things.

In this case, it's a counterfeit bracelet, because it says Rolex on it and isn't, therefore copyright infringement and counterfeit.

Had it not said Rolex, it would be aftermarket, but not counterfeit.

...trying to be nice, and let him down easy...

Stan.

goduke1 · 4 March 2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbie

thank you so much for the info. I metal detect for a hobby and it was one of my finds. Thats what my feeling on it was to " Fake"

Anyhow I got me a new watch lol.

If it had been real, that would have been one hell of a find! (Other than a 25lb bar of gold)

dobbie · 5 March 2009, 01:27 AM

I have learned alot just within your responses. I really know nothing of watches, as you all may be able to tell. lol. Dont worry about letting me down easy I had a feeling this one is a fake I mainly wanted to know the difference between a fake and a real. Hey maybe the next time I find one it will be the real deal. It has happened, Not to me though. Thanx again and God Bless.

DSJ · 5 March 2009, 02:23 AM

Are there holes in the lugs? You could remove the bracelet yourself with a toothpick.

4 March 2009, 07:51 AM	#4
goduke1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: North Carolina Watch: 72' Rolex Air King Posts: 421	I myself new to the fourm and Rolex. The lettering on the clasp looks off center and not lined up straight. It dosn't look right to me, but someone will come along shortly and give more info. These guys and gals are pretty good. __________________ Rolex Air-King 5500 Omega Seamaster Pro 300

4 March 2009, 08:31 AM	#7
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,584	...the band is DEFINITELY... ...aftermarket/counterfeit (same meaning). ...additionally, if it is a vintage DJ, then the case back SHOULD HAVE stampings on it, which I do NOT see. ...take the watch back to the jeweler and ask him to remove the band. There should be numbers on both ends of the watch case and let us know what they are. Likewise, there may be a wording alsostamped above the numbers. ...let us know. ...so far what I have seen, I would say this is a counterfeit. Stan.

4 March 2009, 09:45 AM	#11
Chozn1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South GA Watch: Sub and President Posts: 1,494	The crown's not lined up perfectly with at the 12 o'clock mark either. Enjoy your find though. __________________ Current Models... (K)Bluesy (M) TT DJ In search of DayDate Prior models... Just about everything.

5 March 2009, 02:23 AM	#18
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Are there holes in the lugs? You could remove the bracelet yourself with a toothpick. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

4 March 2009, 07:42 AM	#2
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Welcome to the forum! From my amateur view, the minute hand is supposed to be longer touching the end of the stick while not covering the lume on the minute marker.

4 March 2009, 07:45 AM	#3
aelvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Aelvin Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 330	nowadays with the new Rolex Rep, even a jeweler can hardly tell. I suggest you bring it to a Rolex AD.

4 March 2009, 08:06 AM	#5
JPersat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Jarrett Location: San Antonio TX Watch: ing everybody Posts: 1,515	The date looks not right to me

4 March 2009, 08:56 AM	#8
dobbie "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ca Posts: 5	thank you so much for the info. I metal detect for a hobby and it was one of my finds. Thats what my feeling on it was to " Fake" Anyhow I got me a new watch lol.

4 March 2009, 08:57 AM	#9
JPersat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Jarrett Location: San Antonio TX Watch: ing everybody Posts: 1,515	You paid the best price....lol

4 March 2009, 09:42 AM	#10
dobbie "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ca Posts: 5	ya i think so I love the hobby. I do want to learn about watches though. I feel it will go good with my hobby knowing what is what when I find it so I dont have to bother you fine folks on here with garbage. You all are very knowledgable (SP?) and I am grateful for the help.

4 March 2009, 01:00 PM	#14
RolexPete32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Canada Watch: You know... Rolex Posts: 1,520	That second hand is too short for sure. A dead giveaway!!! The date window looks off centre. I see the little hooks in one of your pictures of how the bracelet connects to the case. I am not 100% sure but I feel this is common for fakes as I understand it Rolex bracelets connect clean to the case or what is commonly called a flush fit. Experts correct me if I am wrong.

5 March 2009, 01:27 AM	#17
dobbie "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ca Posts: 5	I have learned alot just within your responses. I really know nothing of watches, as you all may be able to tell. lol. Dont worry about letting me down easy I had a feeling this one is a fake I mainly wanted to know the difference between a fake and a real. Hey maybe the next time I find one it will be the real deal. It has happened, Not to me though. Thanx again and God Bless.

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