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lx384 · 28 September 2019, 03:49 AM

I just want to highlight this before anyone gets scammed.

User blakecarroll listed a 16518 for sale.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=699823

RED FLAGS.

1) Low post count being a probable red flag, but not always. I have a low post count, but I do a lot of buying and selling. Benefit of doubt given. So I contacted him to find out more about the watch.

2) Stolen picture photoshopped. This is a giant red flag.

3) In my email conversation with him, he sent me a picture of a warranty card dated 2016 instead of the warranty paper. I don't want to go into details, but those looking for this watch should already know why this is a red flag.

4) Photo stolen from bobwatches and photoshopped

5) Asked for a pic of the watch to be set at a certain time. Gave an excuse of not wanting to damage the watch by setting it. 7 hours later, he sent me a pic of the watch but it was in a different box.

6) All in all, the pics he sent to me showed 3 different boxes.

blakecarroll, please feel free to debunk what I've discovered.

Mods, I hope you look into it.

sincerely,
lx384

Noonan · 28 September 2019, 03:54 AM

User is already banned.

Good work!

lx384 · 28 September 2019, 03:57 AM

Thanks Noonan!

Chewbacca · 28 September 2019, 05:32 AM

Great catch OP.

jerry017uk · 28 September 2019, 06:09 AM

Thanks for the heads up. Presently in talks with blakecarroll, thank you once more for sharing this.

twitch54 · 28 September 2019, 06:31 AM

good 'Dick Tracy' work, thanks !

lx384 · 28 September 2019, 11:55 AM

Most welcome everyone! :)

77T · 28 September 2019, 12:15 PM

Excellent sleuthing and exposition with evidence

Laszlo · 28 September 2019, 12:30 PM

Damned good --- what a slime. Nice work.

crazymcmichael · 28 September 2019, 08:21 PM

Nice catch br@

ThatExplorer · 28 September 2019, 09:03 PM

Damn.... good catch!

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GoingPlaces · 28 September 2019, 09:19 PM

Great job, thank you!

FHFinster · 28 September 2019, 09:40 PM

Fantastic!

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PRD · 28 September 2019, 11:46 PM

A quick caution to buyers. If you ask for a watch to be set to a certain time, tell the seller you expect a reply within 15 minutes of your request. If they have the watch with them they should be able to provide that. A common trick is the scammer, once he receives your request for the set time, will pretend to be a buyer for someone selling the same model, and then ask for that watch to be set to the time you requested. He will then simply forward those pics to you, but that whole process will usually take hours as he will have to contact another seller, fake interest, etc.
I agree that asking the seller to set the time on the watch helps, just be careful as the scammers are finding ways to circumvent all the buyer requirements. Just like they are now photoshopping in handwritten userID cards.

Phil

1665fan · 29 September 2019, 01:25 AM

Good work, next time ask for picture if his drivers license and post that also

crowncollection · 29 September 2019, 08:23 AM

Good work

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mrs_LA · 29 September 2019, 01:05 PM

Nice work. The increasing number of scams on here is very alarming. Good for each of us to stay vigilant at all times.

joli160 · 29 September 2019, 08:37 PM

Thank you

SeikoBake · 30 September 2019, 01:15 AM

Great work. Comforting you took the time to post the details.

GGGMT · 30 September 2019, 02:29 AM

Why is the add still posted in classifieds?

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28 September 2019, 03:49 AM	#1
lx384 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Lemuel Location: Asia Posts: 254	Probable Scammer - blakecarroll I just want to highlight this before anyone gets scammed. User blakecarroll listed a 16518 for sale. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=699823 RED FLAGS. 1) Low post count being a probable red flag, but not always. I have a low post count, but I do a lot of buying and selling. Benefit of doubt given. So I contacted him to find out more about the watch. 2) Stolen picture photoshopped. This is a giant red flag. 3) In my email conversation with him, he sent me a picture of a warranty card dated 2016 instead of the warranty paper. I don't want to go into details, but those looking for this watch should already know why this is a red flag. 4) Photo stolen from bobwatches and photoshopped 5) Asked for a pic of the watch to be set at a certain time. Gave an excuse of not wanting to damage the watch by setting it. 7 hours later, he sent me a pic of the watch but it was in a different box. 6) All in all, the pics he sent to me showed 3 different boxes. blakecarroll, please feel free to debunk what I've discovered. Mods, I hope you look into it. sincerely, lx384

28 September 2019, 06:09 AM	#5
jerry017uk Banned Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: JEREMY Location: USA Posts: 38	A big Thanks! Thanks for the heads up. Presently in talks with blakecarroll, thank you once more for sharing this.

28 September 2019, 12:15 PM	#8
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,958	Excellent sleuthing and exposition with evidence __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

28 September 2019, 12:30 PM	#9
Laszlo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,857	Damned good --- what a slime. Nice work. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

28 September 2019, 09:03 PM	#11
ThatExplorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Cory Location: US Watch: 114060 Posts: 652	Damn.... good catch! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -------------------------------------------------------------- 116610-214270-116710-113700-114300-M79380RB-Zodiac GR

28 September 2019, 03:54 AM	#2
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	User is already banned. Good work!

28 September 2019, 03:57 AM	#3
lx384 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Lemuel Location: Asia Posts: 254	Thanks Noonan!

28 September 2019, 05:32 AM	#4
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Great catch OP.

28 September 2019, 06:31 AM	#6
twitch54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: 'Bobby' Location: SE Pa Watch: 1888 Appleton Trac Posts: 982	good 'Dick Tracy' work, thanks !

28 September 2019, 11:55 AM	#7
lx384 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Lemuel Location: Asia Posts: 254	Most welcome everyone! :)

28 September 2019, 08:21 PM	#10
crazymcmichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Here Watch: Sub 114060, 216570 Posts: 2,157	Nice catch br@

28 September 2019, 09:19 PM	#12
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,343	Great job, thank you!

28 September 2019, 09:40 PM	#13
FHFinster "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 961	Fantastic! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 September 2019, 11:46 PM	#14
PRD "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Santa Barbara CA Posts: 36	A quick caution to buyers. If you ask for a watch to be set to a certain time, tell the seller you expect a reply within 15 minutes of your request. If they have the watch with them they should be able to provide that. A common trick is the scammer, once he receives your request for the set time, will pretend to be a buyer for someone selling the same model, and then ask for that watch to be set to the time you requested. He will then simply forward those pics to you, but that whole process will usually take hours as he will have to contact another seller, fake interest, etc. I agree that asking the seller to set the time on the watch helps, just be careful as the scammers are finding ways to circumvent all the buyer requirements. Just like they are now photoshopping in handwritten userID cards. Phil

29 September 2019, 01:25 AM	#15
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,628	Good work, next time ask for picture if his drivers license and post that also

29 September 2019, 08:23 AM	#16
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	Good work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

29 September 2019, 01:05 PM	#17
mrs_LA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,817	Nice work. The increasing number of scams on here is very alarming. Good for each of us to stay vigilant at all times. __________________ Instagram: @angelcitytime

29 September 2019, 08:37 PM	#18
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,458	Thank you __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

30 September 2019, 01:15 AM	#19
SeikoBake "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: location,location Watch: AP 15500 Posts: 283	Great work. Comforting you took the time to post the details.

30 September 2019, 02:29 AM	#20
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,167	Why is the add still posted in classifieds? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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