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Rolexism · 6 May 2009, 02:31 AM

Hi guys,

I need you guys to vote. This is what I love about TRF because of people opinions.So let assume that you got around $20k or close to that to spend.

I got some dilemma between get SS Daytona both black and white or Get either black or white and get PAM 233 or last choice is to get PAM 217.

I always want the SS Daytona and can't decide black or white.That's why I add that to be one of the options but against they're the same watch with different dial color.

However,after I entered Panerai world the PAM bugs have no mercy on me, so it comes to me to consider for 233 (because I got 190H and might make a good 8 days duo)

Or last choice is the PAM 217 Marina Militare,because I love golden hand and it's big!!! and the word Marina Militare refers to history itself.

Therefore,I'm in between Rolex and Panerai now

Btw,my current collection are below: if you guys think which one would make a good choice to my collection.

Yacht Master 16622
PAM 111G
PAM 190H

Thanks in advance and for the participation

chu88y · 6 May 2009, 02:33 AM

ss daytona white/pam233

mfer · 6 May 2009, 03:20 AM

If it were me.
White Daytona and 233.

If it were you, whatever makes you smile.....

louie · 6 May 2009, 03:41 AM

Daytona,and 233.

tuisquash · 6 May 2009, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolexism

Hi guys,

I need you guys to vote. This is what I love about TRF because of people opinions.So let assume that you got around $20k or close to that to spend.

I got some dilemma between get SS Daytona both black and white or Get either black or white and get PAM 233 or last choice is to get PAM 217.

I always want the SS Daytona and can't decide black or white.That's why I add that to be one of the options but against they're the same watch with different dial color.

However,after I entered Panerai world the PAM bugs have no mercy on me, so it comes to me to consider for 233 (because I got 190H and might make a good 8 days duo)

Or last choice is the PAM 217 Marina Militare,because I love golden hand and it's big!!! and the word Marina Militare refers to history itself.

Therefore,I'm in between Rolex and Panerai now

Btw,my current collection are below: if you guys think which one would make a good choice to my collection.

Yacht Master 16622
PAM 111G
PAM 190H

Thanks in advance and for the participation

the 233, and save the money to buy another pam later.

rkot07 · 6 May 2009, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chu88y

ss daytona white/pam233

I agree!!
The PAM has a black dial so the white Daytona will allow you to mix up the look depending on your mood or what your wearing!

JJ Irani · 6 May 2009, 03:58 AM

Where's the option for NONE OF THE ABOVE?

There are much better things I can think of with 20 grand in my pocket.

JJ

PalmSpringsCaVault · 6 May 2009, 04:15 AM

how about bank of america stock yikes

mike · 6 May 2009, 04:30 AM

Another vote for the Daytona and 233, but I'd go black all the way around.

TswaneNguni · 6 May 2009, 05:12 AM

Given the choice the 217,but I would rather spend that $$$ on a 289(used) or 127

Trurolexer · 6 May 2009, 05:47 AM

Same here...Daytona & 233.

argee1977 · 6 May 2009, 05:50 AM

Daytona and 233, that gives you the option of swapping the dial on the Daytona if you don't like the one you choose, and you have the 233 to wear

londonbagpuss · 6 May 2009, 07:08 AM

I said daytona and 233, but you already have some pam, so I would defo go for a daytona and treat yourself to either the 233 or another fancy pam. Let us know what you decide!Lol!

SLRdude · 6 May 2009, 07:13 AM

The only time I had 20k in cash to my name was when I got laid off from work a few years back.
So I can't help you there. I'd have to enter dreamland.

However, if I had that much to spend, it would not be a Rolex or a Panerai that's for sure.

It would be a Patek, a Vacheron or a Lange.

argee1977 · 6 May 2009, 07:15 AM

To be honest if i had 20k to spend on a watch i'd be looking at something like a vintage Rolex or something collectable. The reason for that is that prices have come down in the last year for a lot of this stuff and a lot of people are selling, which means it's a great time to buy.

But, in saying that you are also able to pick up 233s and Daytonas for the best price just now, in know in the states you can get a 233 in great condition for about 9k and the Daytona for about the same, maybe a little less!

I forgot to add, the big problem for me with Panerai though is that anything collectable is already taken up, you have to pay the premium to get them, and the likes of a 127 or a 217 are at a high premium just now, i just wish i could for once get one of these special editions before the flippers do, it's not easy following Panerai when you see something you like and know you'll never ever have a chance to buy it except at twice retail.

WatchTimes · 6 May 2009, 07:18 AM

Love the 233

The Daytona would not even be on my list of wants.

Would you really wear the 217???

robertino233 · 6 May 2009, 07:28 AM

217 witout a doubt. As the values keep moving north , you"ll remember " I TOLD YOU SO "
Classic forever . Tell me 1 panerai fan who would'nt want to own one .
I've looked at archives on the forum and people use to sell their 127's for 6-8k.

Thats money in the bank , and artwork on your wrist .

argee1977 · 6 May 2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertino233

217 witout a doubt. As the values keep moving north , you"ll remember " I TOLD YOU SO "
Classic forever . Tell me 1 panerai fan who would'nt want to own one .
I've looked at archives on the forum and people use to sell their 127's for 6-8k.

Thats money in the bank , and artwork on your wrist .

The problem with the 127 and 217 is that Panerai will continue to release special edition 47mm watches, there comes a point when the amount of special editions just waters down the market prices.

Nica64 · 6 May 2009, 10:11 AM

Pam 233 and white Daytona

Rolexism · 6 May 2009, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chu88y

ss daytona white/pam233

Great choice

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

If it were me.
White Daytona and 233.

If it were you, whatever makes you smile.....

I wish I had a chance to try Black and White Daytona and 233 next to each other in person,so I know what smile at me

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie

Daytona,and 233.

Good choice

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkot07

I agree!!
The PAM has a black dial so the white Daytona will allow you to mix up the look depending on your mood or what your wearing!

Yes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Another vote for the Daytona and 233, but I'd go black all the way around.

I've never seen black in real life.I heard black face is much better contrast with the silver subdials.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Same here...Daytona & 233.

Good choice

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

Daytona and 233, that gives you the option of swapping the dial on the Daytona if you don't like the one you choose, and you have the 233 to wear

Great choice sir!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

Love the 233

The Daytona would not even be on my list of wants.

Would you really wear the 217???

I just need to get Daytona lol

Yes,I would really rotate 217 with others

hflee55 · 6 May 2009, 10:23 AM

Daytona & 233. Both in a way represents the pinnacle of their repective brand's collection.

Rolexism · 6 May 2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuisquash

the 233, and save the money to buy another pam later.

Yes...maybe 232?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Where's the option for NONE OF THE ABOVE?

There are much better things I can think of with 20 grand in my pocket.

JJ

No None of the Above...Please vote sir!!!

Think of any possible choice and vote for fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Given the choice the 217,but I would rather spend that $$$ on a 289(used) or 127

Yeah...let go all the way with Panerai

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLRdude

The only time I had 20k in cash to my name was when I got laid off from work a few years back.
So I can't help you there. I'd have to enter dreamland.

However, if I had that much to spend, it would not be a Rolex or a Panerai that's for sure.

It would be a Patek, a Vacheron or a Lange.

Maybe if I got those bugs bite me hard

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertino233

217 witout a doubt. As the values keep moving north , you"ll remember " I TOLD YOU SO "
Classic forever . Tell me 1 panerai fan who would'nt want to own one .
I've looked at archives on the forum and people use to sell their 127's for 6-8k.

Thats money in the bank , and artwork on your wrist .

I can feel you...hardcore fan there

Rolexism · 6 May 2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

But, in saying that you are also able to pick up 233s and Daytonas for the best price just now, in know in the states you can get a 233 in great condition for about 9k and the Daytona for about the same, maybe a little less!

I forgot to add, the big problem for me with Panerai though is that anything collectable is already taken up, you have to pay the premium to get them, and the likes of a 127 or a 217 are at a high premium just now, i just wish i could for once get one of these special editions before the flippers do, it's not easy following Panerai when you see something you like and know you'll never ever have a chance to buy it except at twice retail.

Yes...Totally agree with the above statement!

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

The problem with the 127 and 217 is that Panerai will continue to release special edition 47mm watches, there comes a point when the amount of special editions just waters down the market prices.

Yeah...it's hard to follow Panerai and we never know what they will release in the future.

rpryan55 · 6 May 2009, 11:03 AM

None of the above. A Patek Calatrava. And a Rolex Submariner ND. At today's prices, you could get both for 20K.

JF23 · 6 May 2009, 11:48 AM

I'd rearrange the numbers from the 217 to 127 and use any $$ left over for straps...

Just using your choices, Black SS Daytona and 233

ASH · 6 May 2009, 02:35 PM

Have both PAM 233 and white face Daytona, now I am fancing JLC Grand Revel

GBJIV · 6 May 2009, 03:44 PM

hmmm... I have 217, 233 and White Face Daytona. All are awesome. Truly awesome. I think the 233 and the Daytona (White or Black) will be "available" for some time - they are both regular production models. The 217 and the 127 are much fewer in number. IMHO, that makes them automatically harder to get. If you like 47mm - I would probably go for one of those. You really "need" to try on and spend a little bit of time with a 47mm - Find a Paneristi that has one and ask them to GTG and hang out with it before you make the decision. As JF23 said, I would add the 127 into the consideration - especially with $20K.

That being said - if I could only pick one out of the watches I have right now - setting sentimental value aside... I would choose the 233. So, with that being the one must have right now for me... Grab that and the Daytona...

You really can't go wrong. $20k in a buyers market. Hard to beat. In my Opinion, $20k for me still isn't enough to really jump into where I would "want" to be with Patek or Lange - Good Luck... Tough problem to have - lol...

niels74 · 6 May 2009, 05:05 PM

hum well my vote goes to the 217... simply a fantastic watch IMHO.

Nacelle · 6 May 2009, 10:10 PM

White Daytona and PAM 233...

VazLube · 7 May 2009, 04:45 AM

While 217 is great watch, but as GBJIV advises, try it on first. 47mm is iffy size for me

I would say go for 233 and keep change for future as you might find one that you want!

View Poll Results: if you got around $20k to spend....
SS Daytona Black and White	5	11.11%
SS Daytona Black or White and PAM 233	30	66.67%
Fidestro PAM 217	10	22.22%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

6 May 2009, 02:31 AM	#1
Rolexism "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Kong Location: CT Posts: 111	If you got around $20k to spend.... Hi guys, I need you guys to vote. This is what I love about TRF because of people opinions.So let assume that you got around $20k or close to that to spend. I got some dilemma between get SS Daytona both black and white or Get either black or white and get PAM 233 or last choice is to get PAM 217. I always want the SS Daytona and can't decide black or white.That's why I add that to be one of the options but against they're the same watch with different dial color. However,after I entered Panerai world the PAM bugs have no mercy on me, so it comes to me to consider for 233 (because I got 190H and might make a good 8 days duo) Or last choice is the PAM 217 Marina Militare,because I love golden hand and it's big!!! and the word Marina Militare refers to history itself. Therefore,I'm in between Rolex and Panerai now Btw,my current collection are below: if you guys think which one would make a good choice to my collection. Yacht Master 16622 PAM 111G PAM 190H Thanks in advance and for the participation

6 May 2009, 03:20 AM	#3
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	If it were me. White Daytona and 233. If it were you, whatever makes you smile..... __________________ member#3242

6 May 2009, 03:41 AM	#4
louie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Lewis Location: Earth Watch: The Beast Posts: 1,352	Daytona,and 233. __________________ " I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

6 May 2009, 03:58 AM	#7
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Where's the option for NONE OF THE ABOVE? There are much better things I can think of with 20 grand in my pocket. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

6 May 2009, 02:33 AM	#2
chu88y Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: LONDON Watch: SDDS Posts: 660	ss daytona white/pam233

6 May 2009, 04:15 AM	#8
PalmSpringsCaVault Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: palm springs CA Watch: Plat.118296DayDate Posts: 192	how about bank of america stock yikes

6 May 2009, 04:30 AM	#9
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Another vote for the Daytona and 233, but I'd go black all the way around.

6 May 2009, 05:12 AM	#10
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Given the choice the 217,but I would rather spend that $$$ on a 289(used) or 127

6 May 2009, 05:47 AM	#11
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Same here...Daytona & 233.

6 May 2009, 05:50 AM	#12
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Daytona and 233, that gives you the option of swapping the dial on the Daytona if you don't like the one you choose, and you have the 233 to wear __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

6 May 2009, 07:08 AM	#13
londonbagpuss Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Posts: 248	I said daytona and 233, but you already have some pam, so I would defo go for a daytona and treat yourself to either the 233 or another fancy pam. Let us know what you decide!Lol!

6 May 2009, 07:13 AM	#14
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	The only time I had 20k in cash to my name was when I got laid off from work a few years back. So I can't help you there. I'd have to enter dreamland. However, if I had that much to spend, it would not be a Rolex or a Panerai that's for sure. It would be a Patek, a Vacheron or a Lange. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

6 May 2009, 07:15 AM	#15
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	To be honest if i had 20k to spend on a watch i'd be looking at something like a vintage Rolex or something collectable. The reason for that is that prices have come down in the last year for a lot of this stuff and a lot of people are selling, which means it's a great time to buy. But, in saying that you are also able to pick up 233s and Daytonas for the best price just now, in know in the states you can get a 233 in great condition for about 9k and the Daytona for about the same, maybe a little less! I forgot to add, the big problem for me with Panerai though is that anything collectable is already taken up, you have to pay the premium to get them, and the likes of a 127 or a 217 are at a high premium just now, i just wish i could for once get one of these special editions before the flippers do, it's not easy following Panerai when you see something you like and know you'll never ever have a chance to buy it except at twice retail. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

6 May 2009, 07:18 AM	#16
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,537	Love the 233 The Daytona would not even be on my list of wants. Would you really wear the 217??? __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

6 May 2009, 07:28 AM	#17
robertino233 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ny Posts: 31	217 witout a doubt. As the values keep moving north , you"ll remember " I TOLD YOU SO " Classic forever . Tell me 1 panerai fan who would'nt want to own one . I've looked at archives on the forum and people use to sell their 127's for 6-8k. Thats money in the bank , and artwork on your wrist .

6 May 2009, 10:11 AM	#19
Nica64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,596	Pam 233 and white Daytona __________________ ______________________________ You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.

6 May 2009, 10:23 AM	#21
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	Daytona & 233. Both in a way represents the pinnacle of their repective brand's collection.

6 May 2009, 11:03 AM	#24
rpryan55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dick Location: USA Watch: SubND,DD,SSDaytona Posts: 2,257	None of the above. A Patek Calatrava. And a Rolex Submariner ND. At today's prices, you could get both for 20K. __________________ “The only reason for time ....................... is so that everything doesn't happen at once." Albert Einstein

6 May 2009, 11:48 AM	#25
JF23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 1,899	I'd rearrange the numbers from the 217 to 127 and use any $$ left over for straps... Just using your choices, Black SS Daytona and 233

6 May 2009, 02:35 PM	#26
ASH "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: El Paso Watch: PAM 233 Posts: 559	Have both PAM 233 and white face Daytona, now I am fancing JLC Grand Revel __________________ SS White dial Rolex Daytona, Rolex DSSD, Rolex Milgauss GV, Panerai 233, Panerai 111, Tudor Pelagos, Casio G shock.

6 May 2009, 03:44 PM	#27
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	hmmm... I have 217, 233 and White Face Daytona. All are awesome. Truly awesome. I think the 233 and the Daytona (White or Black) will be "available" for some time - they are both regular production models. The 217 and the 127 are much fewer in number. IMHO, that makes them automatically harder to get. If you like 47mm - I would probably go for one of those. You really "need" to try on and spend a little bit of time with a 47mm - Find a Paneristi that has one and ask them to GTG and hang out with it before you make the decision. As JF23 said, I would add the 127 into the consideration - especially with $20K. That being said - if I could only pick one out of the watches I have right now - setting sentimental value aside... I would choose the 233. So, with that being the one must have right now for me... Grab that and the Daytona... You really can't go wrong. $20k in a buyers market. Hard to beat. In my Opinion, $20k for me still isn't enough to really jump into where I would "want" to be with Patek or Lange - Good Luck... Tough problem to have - lol... __________________ Jackson

6 May 2009, 05:05 PM	#28
niels74 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Siberia,yes it is Posts: 640	hum well my vote goes to the 217... simply a fantastic watch IMHO.

6 May 2009, 10:10 PM	#29
Nacelle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cascadia Posts: 300	White Daytona and PAM 233...

7 May 2009, 04:45 AM	#30
VazLube Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South of Equator Posts: 278	While 217 is great watch, but as GBJIV advises, try it on first. 47mm is iffy size for me I would say go for 233 and keep change for future as you might find one that you want!

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