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d-cannon · 2 June 2009, 10:02 AM

My AD said that the sub is going to a ceramic bezel very soon... how collectible will the current Subs be in 10-15 years? He stated that they are one of the higher produced watches in Rolex's line over recent years. I was think of getting one to put aside as an investment or give to my son in 15 years... It would not compete with my others for wrist time.

Also, which one has been more rare/desirable, LV, Bluesy, other? I am not a TT fan.

TimeToGo · 2 June 2009, 10:03 AM

A future CLASSIC!

TimeToGo · 2 June 2009, 10:06 AM

I purchased my son a 2006 GMT after he showed interest in the style and color of the bezzel.

I do not particularly care for the LV (you can always buy a bezel to match the style) vice versa if you owned the LV, you can always change it to black.

A bluezy is a must for dressier, casual, whatever. You really can not go wrong with this series...

Ask JJ...

Watchdog · 2 June 2009, 10:09 AM

IMHO . . .

Great watch but with the high production numbers, I can't see it as an investment for the future from a financial perspective.

However, as an investment for your child's future enjoyment . . .

SLS · 2 June 2009, 10:21 AM

No modern Rolex is collectable IMO.
Scott

mike · 2 June 2009, 10:22 AM

As a gift for your son couldn't be better....I gave my son one.

As an investment.....the current Submariner is an old reference, even by Rolex standards. The reference has been around since circa 1989 and despite a few minor changes (tritium dial to luminova for one) there are so many examples out there I have my doubts.

If I had to pick based on your criteria the LV would be my choice. Made since 2003 it at least has far fewer numbers than it's all black counterpart and the combination of the maxi-dial and classic case may raise an eyebrow in the future......who can say.

d-cannon · 2 June 2009, 10:33 AM

What do you think might be a better watch that will have a "WOW factor" 10 years from now in the $8K price range?

exxondus · 2 June 2009, 11:04 AM

seadweller?

mike · 2 June 2009, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-cannon

What do you think might be a better watch that will have a "WOW factor" 10 years from now in the $8K price range?

If I had to pick--one of these,

The SS Daytona may be difficult at that range, but.....

d-cannon · 2 June 2009, 11:16 AM

Well, I did just get a black dial Daytona... you think a green crystal mil is the way to go?

NJSub · 2 June 2009, 11:23 AM

I have a tritium faced 16610 and the only reason I am not going to upgrade the face is because of the sentimental value of the whole package. I really doubt it will be worth any additional "vintage $$$" as they are pretty common.

That doesn't mean it will be worth less though, they still hold their value pretty well over the years!

TimeToGo · 2 June 2009, 11:25 AM

Just look at the current increases in price, think 10 years down the line!

You can not go wrong! Ask your son which one he likes now, you may be surprised! He will forget about it!

d-cannon · 2 June 2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Just look at the current increases in price, think 10 years down the line!

You can not go wrong! Ask your son which one he likes now, you may be surprised! He will forget about it!

He turns 2 years old this weekend... I was thinking of picking up a Z serial of something and give him a watch from his birthyear after high school or college graduation.

I'd love a 1976 Daytona myself!

landroverking · 2 June 2009, 11:32 AM

I don't think the modern Sub Date will have much collector value in the next few years, there are just too many of them. Now as a gift for someone down the road that could be a great idea. If increase value is what you are after some of the other Rolex tool watches might be a better pick. EXP II, Daytona, some of the GMT's, Sea Dweller or the Rolex Sub(non date) IMO they have a better up side then the Sub Date. In the end it is anybody's guess.

TimeToGo · 2 June 2009, 11:33 AM

WOW! Buy a watch that matches his birth year and give it to him when he graduates college! This would be awesome!!!!!

BLM2 · 2 June 2009, 11:36 AM

Not collectible in 10-15 years. Probably will be collectible in 50 years.

Lee

Bisquitlips · 2 June 2009, 11:40 AM

I would think that the Rolex Submariner is the most mass produced Rolex in their history. I do not see any modern Sub becoming "collectible" until the year 2096.

But that is just my never to be humble opinion.

Paul7039 · 2 June 2009, 12:59 PM

I did the same thing -- I picked up second Daytona to give to my 5 year old when he graduates college etc. I am sure I won't be able to afford one at that time.

d-cannon · 2 June 2009, 01:10 PM

Alright, so who wants to unload a Z serial, future collectible?

Z-Sub · 2 June 2009, 04:05 PM

collectable, yes. investment to make money, no.
I will continue to buy in the future if I like a new reference and it will be collectable to me. but these modern references will not be sought after by collectors like red sub or double red SD in the future.

padi56 · 2 June 2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

No modern Rolex is collectable IMO.
Scott

Have to agree there afraid Rolex watches from say the cal 31XX series just forget it, to many millions of them in this world today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

I would think that the Rolex Submariner is the most mass produced Rolex in their history. I do not see any modern Sub becoming "collectible" until the year 2096.

But that is just my never to be humble opinion.

Without doubt its the DJ thats the most mass produced Rolex but would think the sub is second for sure.

chu88y · 2 June 2009, 07:37 PM

edge your bets get the SUB date LV and Bluesy

alant · 2 June 2009, 07:40 PM

It's a great watch. Buy it for that reason.

handdoc · 2 June 2009, 08:07 PM

i grabbed a gmt II stick dial to give to my oldest when he graduates from college (11 years)

TheDude · 2 June 2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Just look at the current increases in price, think 10 years down the line!

You can not go wrong! Ask your son which one he likes now, you may be surprised! He will forget about it!

Exactly.

I was talking watches with a buddy of mine over the weekend. He pulled out his box and papers for his P series Exp II. He got it in March 01 from an AD for just over $3000. Quite a lot of increase since then no?

Imtiaz · 3 June 2009, 12:47 AM

Yes the Sub is a high production watch. One of the best sellers, but take a look at so many Subs that are now out of production, check out the price.

Not cheap at all.

A 1975 Sub today would be around $6000 and if it is a Red Sub, about $10,000 at least and a double Red sub - you guess the price.

Original price at that time (from my memory) was about $600 to $750 in Hong Kong.

This is not to say the current Sub will go up in value, but emperical data of the watch does indicate a positive trend over the next decade.

sub-mariner · 4 June 2009, 03:11 AM

Any of the sport Rolexes will hold it's value against the dollar in the future. But my bets are on the current non date submariner COSC. Not many made, and if the rumers are correct and it's discontinued it may become very rare indeed. Plus it's just a great watch, either way you can't lose.

NJSub · 4 June 2009, 03:22 AM

I didn't get my watch as an investment, but I also expect it likely that in a few years I could sell it without loss. These things do hold value well, especially purchased pre-owned.

But in the end I have it because I love wearing it, I don't think the Sub is the right Rolex if you are trying to make investment grade profits.

2 June 2009, 10:02 AM	#1
d-cannon Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Virginia Watch: 118238 and 116520 Posts: 34	Collectibility of a modern Sub My AD said that the sub is going to a ceramic bezel very soon... how collectible will the current Subs be in 10-15 years? He stated that they are one of the higher produced watches in Rolex's line over recent years. I was think of getting one to put aside as an investment or give to my son in 15 years... It would not compete with my others for wrist time. Also, which one has been more rare/desirable, LV, Bluesy, other? I am not a TT fan.

2 June 2009, 10:21 AM	#5
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	No modern Rolex is collectable IMO. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

2 June 2009, 10:33 AM	#7
d-cannon Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Virginia Watch: 118238 and 116520 Posts: 34	options What do you think might be a better watch that will have a "WOW factor" 10 years from now in the $8K price range?

2 June 2009, 11:16 AM	#10
d-cannon Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Virginia Watch: 118238 and 116520 Posts: 34	well... Well, I did just get a black dial Daytona... you think a green crystal mil is the way to go?

2 June 2009, 11:40 AM	#17
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,504	I would think that the Rolex Submariner is the most mass produced Rolex in their history. I do not see any modern Sub becoming "collectible" until the year 2096. But that is just my never to be humble opinion. __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

2 June 2009, 10:03 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,624	A future CLASSIC!

2 June 2009, 10:06 AM	#3
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,624	I purchased my son a 2006 GMT after he showed interest in the style and color of the bezzel. I do not particularly care for the LV (you can always buy a bezel to match the style) vice versa if you owned the LV, you can always change it to black. A bluezy is a must for dressier, casual, whatever. You really can not go wrong with this series... Ask JJ...

2 June 2009, 10:09 AM	#4
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,739	IMHO . . . Great watch but with the high production numbers, I can't see it as an investment for the future from a financial perspective. However, as an investment for your child's future enjoyment . . .

2 June 2009, 10:22 AM	#6
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	As a gift for your son couldn't be better....I gave my son one. As an investment.....the current Submariner is an old reference, even by Rolex standards. The reference has been around since circa 1989 and despite a few minor changes (tritium dial to luminova for one) there are so many examples out there I have my doubts. If I had to pick based on your criteria the LV would be my choice. Made since 2003 it at least has far fewer numbers than it's all black counterpart and the combination of the maxi-dial and classic case may raise an eyebrow in the future......who can say.

2 June 2009, 11:04 AM	#8
exxondus "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 568	seadweller?

2 June 2009, 11:23 AM	#11
NJSub Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: NJ, USA Watch: 16610 Posts: 156	I have a tritium faced 16610 and the only reason I am not going to upgrade the face is because of the sentimental value of the whole package. I really doubt it will be worth any additional "vintage $$$" as they are pretty common. That doesn't mean it will be worth less though, they still hold their value pretty well over the years!

2 June 2009, 11:25 AM	#12
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,624	Just look at the current increases in price, think 10 years down the line! You can not go wrong! Ask your son which one he likes now, you may be surprised! He will forget about it!

2 June 2009, 11:32 AM	#14
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	I don't think the modern Sub Date will have much collector value in the next few years, there are just too many of them. Now as a gift for someone down the road that could be a great idea. If increase value is what you are after some of the other Rolex tool watches might be a better pick. EXP II, Daytona, some of the GMT's, Sea Dweller or the Rolex Sub(non date) IMO they have a better up side then the Sub Date. In the end it is anybody's guess.

2 June 2009, 11:33 AM	#15
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,624	WOW! Buy a watch that matches his birth year and give it to him when he graduates college! This would be awesome!!!!!

2 June 2009, 11:36 AM	#16
BLM2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Posts: 360	Not collectible in 10-15 years. Probably will be collectible in 50 years. Lee

2 June 2009, 12:59 PM	#18
Paul7039 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Watch: 5711 Posts: 52	I did the same thing -- I picked up second Daytona to give to my 5 year old when he graduates college etc. I am sure I won't be able to afford one at that time.

2 June 2009, 01:10 PM	#19
d-cannon Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Virginia Watch: 118238 and 116520 Posts: 34	I have an idea... Alright, so who wants to unload a Z serial, future collectible?

2 June 2009, 04:05 PM	#20
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	collectable, yes. investment to make money, no. I will continue to buy in the future if I like a new reference and it will be collectable to me. but these modern references will not be sought after by collectors like red sub or double red SD in the future. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

2 June 2009, 07:37 PM	#22
chu88y Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: LONDON Watch: SDDS Posts: 660	edge your bets get the SUB date LV and Bluesy

2 June 2009, 07:40 PM	#23
alant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Alan Location: Netherlands Watch: Submariner Date Posts: 238	It's a great watch. Buy it for that reason.

2 June 2009, 08:07 PM	#24
handdoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New England Posts: 328	i grabbed a gmt II stick dial to give to my oldest when he graduates from college (11 years)

3 June 2009, 12:47 AM	#26
Imtiaz Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: De Location: Tokyo Watch: Daytona, Sub, DS, Posts: 1,046	Yes the Sub is a high production watch. One of the best sellers, but take a look at so many Subs that are now out of production, check out the price. Not cheap at all. A 1975 Sub today would be around $6000 and if it is a Red Sub, about $10,000 at least and a double Red sub - you guess the price. Original price at that time (from my memory) was about $600 to $750 in Hong Kong. This is not to say the current Sub will go up in value, but emperical data of the watch does indicate a positive trend over the next decade.

4 June 2009, 03:11 AM	#27
sub-mariner "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Ed Location: Maine Watch: Rolex submariner Posts: 5	Any of the sport Rolexes will hold it's value against the dollar in the future. But my bets are on the current non date submariner COSC. Not many made, and if the rumers are correct and it's discontinued it may become very rare indeed. Plus it's just a great watch, either way you can't lose.

4 June 2009, 03:22 AM	#28
NJSub Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: NJ, USA Watch: 16610 Posts: 156	I didn't get my watch as an investment, but I also expect it likely that in a few years I could sell it without loss. These things do hold value well, especially purchased pre-owned. But in the end I have it because I love wearing it, I don't think the Sub is the right Rolex if you are trying to make investment grade profits.

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