1675 3,2 Mil. Serial Mark 4 Dial?

[SignotheTimes]

Hello everyone, would this dial be periodically correct and a "Mark 4". What do you think of the luminosity.

[TimeToGo]

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Not a Mk-4.
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Look here:
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https://gmtmaster1675.com/service-dials/

[SignotheTimes]

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

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Not a Mk-4.
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Look here:
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https://gmtmaster1675.com/service-dials/

Well, there would only be the question of whether the dial is tritium or luminova ...

[TimeToGo]

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not the best of pictures but my take would be tritium..

[SignotheTimes]

Thank you, what would you say about the case.

[Dan S]

Polished for sale obviously, but the crown guards don't look bad. Can't judge the lugs based on what you have posted.

[springer]

That is what many of us refer to as a "service watch" which is a watch which had many of the original parts replaced with service parts.

This particular watch has a service dial (probably tritium based on the color of the dial markers) service hands, service insert, service bezel and service or later bracelet.

[Tom1675]

Originally Posted by springer

That is what many of us refer to as a "service watch" which is a watch which had many of the original parts replaced with service parts.

This particular watch has a service dial (probably tritium based on the color of the dial markers) service hands, service insert, service bezel and service or later bracelet.

Ya, and if the price is right it's a wearable daily driver...

[SignotheTimes]

Thank you Tom, the watch has a Rolex service papers and was recently serviced by an independent watchmaker. Which market price (Europe) would be "realistic" here

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by SignotheTimes

Thank you Tom, the watch has a Rolex service papers and was recently serviced by an independent watchmaker. Which market price (Europe) would be "realistic" here

IMO, 50-60% of the price of an all-original example. As noted, it's a perfectly good watch to wear, but not much collectible value.

[SignotheTimes]

well, the seller wants about $ 15,300. So this offer is probably less attractive ...

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by SignotheTimes

well, the seller wants about $ 15,300. So this offer is probably less attractive ...

FWIW, recently I've been seeing the serviced examples starting at $11k and the original ones starting at $15k

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

FWIW, recently I've been seeing the serviced examples starting at $11k and the original ones starting at $15k

Interesting, I didn't realize that pieces with all service parts were selling for so much now. The last few auctions I saw were more like $9k but TBH I don't follow them religiously since they're not for me. Personally, $11k seems like a lot to pay for a watch like that. I'd rather buy a 1990s tritium piece in original condition.

[SignotheTimes]

I am currently looking for a reference 1675 and here in Germany there are service parts watches for 15,000 USD and the authentic ones in "good" condition from around 20,000 USD ...

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by Dan S

Interesting, I didn't realize that pieces with all service parts were selling for so much now. The last few auctions I saw were more like $9k but TBH I don't follow them religiously since they're not for me. Personally, $11k seems like a lot to pay for a watch like that. I'd rather buy a 1990s tritium piece in original condition.

I doubt I have access to the best deals, if you see one at around 8 or 9k please send me a pm.


Any initial thoughts on this one...service hands ?

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[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by SignotheTimes

I am currently looking for a reference 1675 and here in Germany there are service parts watches for 15,000 USD and the authentic ones in "good" condition from around 20,000 USD ...

things change fast, now I'm seeing 20k for good ones as well...but still 11k or so for the service types.
With that big a spread, I wonder if its less $$ going the service route and restoring.

[RolexGonz]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

I doubt I have access to the best deals, if you see one at around 8 or 9k please send me a pm.


Any initial thoughts on this one...service hands ?

[IMG][/IMG]

I like the insert on this one (red back original) and the dial is nice, you could color match the hands. If you like the jubilee bracelet (and it’s not too stretched), for the right price it’s not a bad place to start. Can’t really comment on the case from this picture.

[SignotheTimes]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

things change fast, now I'm seeing 20k for good ones as well...but still 11k or so for the service types.
With that big a spread, I wonder if its less $$ going the service route and restoring.

you have to calculate that on a case-by-case basis. A periodically correct inlay costs around USD 950+ and a matching bracelet (7836/6251) around USD 1,400. A correct dial would certainly be too expensive ...

[swaini3]

Originally Posted by RolexGonz

I like the insert on this one (red back original) and the dial is nice, you could color match the hands. If you like the jubilee bracelet (and it’s not too stretched), for the right price it’s not a bad place to start. Can’t really comment on the case from this picture.

I dont think its a red back. Looks like the new fat font service inserts. Look at the 22.

[TimeToGo]

Originally Posted by swaini3

I dont think its a red back. Looks like the new fat font service inserts. Look at the 22.

Correct, not a Red back..

[springer]

There are three known matte service dials for the GMT 1675. Below is a link that I put together with photos for each of the three service dials along with another thread which has photos of the Mark IV 1675 dial for comparison. Study the differences in the coronet on each dial and the alignment of CERTIFIED underneath CHRONOMETER on both dials and the differences between a service dial and Mark IV dial become readily apparent.

https://www.gmtforum.com/viewtopic.p...7b3ca97d5cb56f

https://www.gmtforum.com/viewtopic.p...7b3ca97d5cb56f

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by SignotheTimes

you have to calculate that on a case-by-case basis. A periodically correct inlay costs around USD 950+ and a matching bracelet (7836/6251) around USD 1,400. A correct dial would certainly be too expensive ...

A correct dial is around 3.5k so maybe still worthwhile to restore?

[SignotheTimes]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

A correct dial is around 3.5k so maybe still worthwhile to restore?

if the starting point (the price) is correct, one would have to calculate the matter ... However, one then also has a "thrown together" reference 1675. I would like the following watch. There was a previous story on Instagram.

https://greyandpatina.com/products/1...al-faded-pepsi

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by SignotheTimes

if the starting point (the price) is correct, one would have to calculate the matter ... However, one then also has a "thrown together" reference 1675. I would like the following watch. There was a previous story on Instagram.

https://greyandpatina.com/products/1...al-faded-pepsi

That watch looks really cool, of course it could be a thrown together watch.