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usma76 · 17 June 2009, 09:13 PM

Good Morning All,

Does the M Series Submariner have the ceramic bezel? Are the numbers indented on the ceramic bezels?

Many Thanks!

Tools · 18 June 2009, 03:10 AM

Good morning..

No, "M" series SS Subs do not have ceramic bezels.. (although it's possible that some will be "M" serials when they are released)

Yes, the numbers are indented on the ceramic bezels...... and they are coated with precious metal, bonded to the ceramic, either platinum or gold, just like the GMT ...

mattyb65 · 18 June 2009, 06:52 AM

Well actually, the WG and YG subs do have the ceramic bezels. They were both made with "M" serial numbers. The 18k/SS sub with ceramic bezel should have a "V" serial.

SubmarinerMan · 18 June 2009, 09:50 AM

There are no 'M' SS Subs with the ceramic bezel, it's just the aluminium inserts!! But the Gold and TT models have the ceramic bezels. The TT Sub ceramic won't be a 'M' series because it started production on 'V' series!!

BLM2 · 18 June 2009, 10:05 AM

The YG and WG subs were released at Basel '08 and will start with a M serial number. The TT sub were released in '09 and will start with a V serial number. The SS has not officially been released but if Rolex follows the pattern of the GMT-C it will be released in '10. Probably will not see them in dealers until fall or winter of '10.

Lee

Andad · 18 June 2009, 04:19 PM

What's Fall or winter as a month?

zak98 · 18 June 2009, 10:28 PM

wonder if the "v" serial number will "last" until release of new ss sub. and is the current ss sub in "v' series now?

padi56 · 18 June 2009, 10:43 PM

XYZ OR V or any other letter its only a case stamp

usma76 · 19 June 2009, 04:56 AM

Thank each of you for the information. I was looking to avoid the ceramic dial insert, which may soon be a reality on many Rolex watches. I just do not see ceramic dial inserts as being as durable as the metal ones. Metal may scratch but ceramic materials may crack and crumble with age. Also, colors, such as blue, may vary by degrees due to the heating process.

17 June 2009, 09:13 PM	#1
usma76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 5	M Series Submariner Dial Good Morning All, Does the M Series Submariner have the ceramic bezel? Are the numbers indented on the ceramic bezels? Many Thanks!

18 June 2009, 03:10 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,223	Good morning.. No, "M" series SS Subs do not have ceramic bezels.. (although it's possible that some will be "M" serials when they are released) Yes, the numbers are indented on the ceramic bezels...... and they are coated with precious metal, bonded to the ceramic, either platinum or gold, just like the GMT ... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

18 June 2009, 09:50 AM	#4
SubmarinerMan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Bedfordshire, UK Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,046	There are no 'M' SS Subs with the ceramic bezel, it's just the aluminium inserts!! But the Gold and TT models have the ceramic bezels. The TT Sub ceramic won't be a 'M' series because it started production on 'V' series!! __________________ Rolex Submariner 16610 LV 'M'. Rolex Submariner 16610 'M'. Rolex Sea-Dweller 126600. Omega Seamaster 2226.80.00. Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 2907.50.91 .

18 June 2009, 04:19 PM	#6
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,021	What's Fall or winter as a month? __________________ E

18 June 2009, 10:28 PM	#7
zak98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TN Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,166	wonder if the "v" serial number will "last" until release of new ss sub. and is the current ss sub in "v' series now? __________________ Z- Submariner; P- Airking; R- DateJust; M- GMTII; C0 - Milgauss GV Breitling SuperOcean Heritage 46 Omega Speedmaster Racing Panerai PAM390

18 June 2009, 06:52 AM	#3
mattyb65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Boston Watch: Rolex Sub-C Posts: 130	Well actually, the WG and YG subs do have the ceramic bezels. They were both made with "M" serial numbers. The 18k/SS sub with ceramic bezel should have a "V" serial.

18 June 2009, 10:05 AM	#5
BLM2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Posts: 360	The YG and WG subs were released at Basel '08 and will start with a M serial number. The TT sub were released in '09 and will start with a V serial number. The SS has not officially been released but if Rolex follows the pattern of the GMT-C it will be released in '10. Probably will not see them in dealers until fall or winter of '10. Lee

18 June 2009, 10:43 PM	#8
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,514	XYZ OR V or any other letter its only a case stamp __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

19 June 2009, 04:56 AM	#9
usma76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 5	Ceramic Dial Inserts Thank each of you for the information. I was looking to avoid the ceramic dial insert, which may soon be a reality on many Rolex watches. I just do not see ceramic dial inserts as being as durable as the metal ones. Metal may scratch but ceramic materials may crack and crumble with age. Also, colors, such as blue, may vary by degrees due to the heating process.

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