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lovecartier · 20 July 2009, 02:48 AM

Hi there,

I bought a pre-owned (circa 1993) Datejust yesterday (my first nice watch!) and wanted to know if someone could give me some details on which model number this is and anything I should know about it. I hate being undereducated!

I know it's a steel Datejust with the Jubilee bracelet and a white gold bezel. That's it. Clue me in, please? [Insert apology for camera phone picture here]

Thanks in advance for your help!

Lol-x · 20 July 2009, 11:22 AM

The style of dial is called 'tapestry'.
I believe it is model no. 16234.
The bezel is 'fluted'.

lovecartier · 20 July 2009, 11:27 AM

Oh, cool. Thanks. :) How much should I have paid for this thing?

Idle Swede · 20 July 2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lovecartier

Oh, cool. Thanks. :) How much should I have paid for this thing?

$500.00 less than you paid.

How long is a rope?

Sweramic · 20 July 2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Idle Swede

$500.00 less than you paid.

How long is a rope?

lovecartier · 20 July 2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Idle Swede

$500.00 less than you paid.

How long is a rope?

HAHA you and my father would be best friends....

Idle Swede · 20 July 2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lovecartier

Oh, cool. Thanks. :) How much should I have paid for this thing?

Sorry about that remark lovecartier, didn't mean to come off as a smartass but whatever you paid for it must have been ok in your book, right?

Welcome to the forum..

Finley · 20 July 2009, 11:40 AM

I believe the tapestry dial is pretty desirable, yes?

Taffi Abernathy · 20 July 2009, 12:45 PM

I love that dial and wish Rolex still made it.

bodybump · 20 July 2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by finley

i believe the tapestry dial is pretty desirable, yes?

yes!!!!!

lovecartier · 20 July 2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bodybump

yes!!!!!

Even in this hard to read silver on silver on silver situation?

Idle Swede · 20 July 2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lovecartier

Even in this hard to read silver on silver on silver situation?

I agree it's a little hard to read at times but never the less it's a beautiful dial..

Finley · 20 July 2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lovecartier

Even in this hard to read silver on silver on silver situation?

Only at 12:30 and 6:00!

I can read it! It's a beautiful dial...and not entirely easy to come by anymore from what I understand.

bodybump · 20 July 2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lovecartier

Even in this hard to read silver on silver on silver situation?

There more hard to read watches out there..some of them i cant even see the hands..hahahaha but people still buy it...Its a beautiful dial IMO...youll get used to it....I wear my watch when i go out but it seems like everytime i check the time i grab my phone hahahahaha

lovecartier · 20 July 2009, 01:49 PM

Well I'm glad you guys all think I picked a good one - the parents didn't. Yet again, their eyes are about 40 years older than mine are ...

When it's hard to read is actually when the hands are below the cyclops more than anything else. It is a pretty damn cool watch though! :) My Dad also claims that both he and my mother used to have Rolexes and that they don't keep good time (he was NOT happy with this purchase decision). I hope he's wrong ...

sea-dweller · 20 July 2009, 01:54 PM

That is a nice SS DJ ! Congrats !

Idle Swede · 20 July 2009, 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=lovecartier;1271866]Well I'm glad you guys all think I picked a good one - the parents didn't. Yet again, their eyes are about 40 years older than mine are ...

When it's hard to read is actually when the hands are below the cyclops more than anything else. It is a pretty damn cool watch though! :) My Dad also claims that both he and my mother used to have Rolexes and that they don't keep good time (he was NOT happy with this purchase decision). I hope he's wrong ...[/QUOTE]

He is.......

Mr. K · 20 July 2009, 03:58 PM

I heard that they used a wooden tool to make the tapistry dial and that the tool wore out, thus they discontinued it. But for whatever reason, it is too bad they no longer make that dial.

Brushpup · 20 July 2009, 08:55 PM

I absolutely love the tapestry dials, Black and grey being my favs.

SDDS · 20 July 2009, 10:10 PM

very nice congratulations

zak98 · 20 July 2009, 10:12 PM

wonderful watch! you can remove the bracelet and get the s/n and case number just to have that info as well. or if you are not comfortable doing that, an AD will do it for you.

congrats again!

lovecartier · 20 July 2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zak98

wonderful watch! you can remove the bracelet and get the s/n and case number just to have that info as well. or if you are not comfortable doing that, an AD will do it for you.

congrats again!

Thank you! Sorry - what's an "AD"?

Idle Swede · 20 July 2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lovecartier

Thank you! Sorry - what's an "AD"?

Authorized dealer, (in your case the big T:)

You probably have the box and paper with all the info.

lovecartier · 20 July 2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Idle Swede

Authorized dealer

You probably have the box and paper with all the info.

Tourneau did not put the serial number on their house papers and gave me a house box. You'd think with that much money I'd get a Rolex box ... I wasn't particularly thrilled with Tourneau but I guess you get what you get and at least I knew the warranty would be valid. Next time (in um... 10 years ...) I'll buy from a better company :)

Idle Swede · 20 July 2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lovecartier

Tourneau did not put the serial number on their house papers and gave me a house box. You'd think with that much money I'd get a Rolex box ... I wasn't particularly thrilled with Tourneau but I guess you get what you get and at least I knew the warranty would be valid. Next time (in um... 10 years ...) I'll buy from a better company :)

My mistake, I thought you got it with box and papers.

In that case I would go back to them, have them take the bracelet off and record the serial & model #'s on your receipt.

Doesn't hurt to have it registered for future references, (specially with them..:)

lovecartier · 21 July 2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Idle Swede

My mistake, I thought you got it with box and papers.

In that case I would go back to them, have them take the bracelet off and record the serial & model #'s on your receipt.

Doesn't hurt to have it registered for future references, (specially with them..:)

I'll do that when I'm back down there in two weeks. Thanks for the advice. What do you mean by "specially with them"?

lovecartier · 22 July 2009, 12:20 PM

Hey - some more questions (thanks for all of the very helpful answers I got):

- Is it normal that at this age the "luminous" hands don't ... luminate anymore?
- I caved in and bought Tourneau's 3 year warranty because my understanding is that the service that needs to be performed every 5-7 years costs about $500 and this will cover it whenever I want it (so if I do it in 3 years, I'm good for about 8-10 at the price of $195). They do use only Rolex parts, right?

- Any way I can get a Rolex box for this thing? BernardWatch.com is a reputable company that appears to sell them but I don't know if having a box from the wrong year is any good?

- Is it true I can take the Rolex to a Rolex Service Center (I live in Manhattan) and have it checked out and get papers for the thing? If yes, is there a fee for that?

Thanks so much again all of you. Love this site. And my Datejust.

Colnago · 22 July 2009, 12:26 PM

It's a beautiful watch.....in twenty years time when you are still wearing it, I'll bet my bottom dollar your Dad admits he was wrong....it is a lot of money to spend on a watch no matter which Rolex you decide on....but it'll still seem like the best money you ever spent in the years to come....

lovecartier · 22 July 2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Colnago

It's a beautiful watch.....in twenty years time when you are still wearing it, I'll bet my bottom dollar your Dad admits he was wrong....it is a lot of money to spend on a watch no matter which Rolex you decide on....but it'll still seem like the best money you ever spent in the years to come....

I think I'd have to wear my watch for about 200 years to get my Dad to admit he was wrong.

Thanks though!

Anyone have an answer to my new list of questions above?

Colnago · 22 July 2009, 12:58 PM

Yes it's perfectly normal for the lume on your watch to not glow anymore....your dial will say "T SWISS MADE T" at the 6 o'clock position...or maybe "T SWISS T"....or something like that....this indicates a Tritium dial, that's the substance they used for luminous glow, it only lasts around 12 years or so, very very good initially but it doesn't last which is a great shame.....Rolex now use Super Luminova which lasts forever (apparently)....

As for the box and paperwork, it's only really of great importance if you intend selling the watch in the future as it increases the value a bit, service papers will serve as authentication.....if it's your only Rolex when do you intend to use the box????

20 July 2009, 11:22 AM	#2
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,311	The style of dial is called 'tapestry'. I believe it is model no. 16234. The bezel is 'fluted'. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

20 July 2009, 11:40 AM	#8
Finley "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: United States Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 417	I believe the tapestry dial is pretty desirable, yes? __________________ I have to be successful because I like expensive things.

20 July 2009, 12:45 PM	#9
Taffi Abernathy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Faith Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: TT DJ, SS DJ Posts: 4,053	I love that dial and wish Rolex still made it. __________________ Sarcasm is my second language.

20 July 2009, 01:54 PM	#16
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	That is a nice SS DJ ! Congrats ! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

20 July 2009, 08:55 PM	#19
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	I absolutely love the tapestry dials, Black and grey being my favs. __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

20 July 2009, 11:27 AM	#3
lovecartier Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Washington Watch: TT DJ 36mm Jubilee Posts: 61	Oh, cool. Thanks. :) How much should I have paid for this thing?

20 July 2009, 01:49 PM	#15
lovecartier Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Washington Watch: TT DJ 36mm Jubilee Posts: 61	Well I'm glad you guys all think I picked a good one - the parents didn't. Yet again, their eyes are about 40 years older than mine are ... When it's hard to read is actually when the hands are below the cyclops more than anything else. It is a pretty damn cool watch though! :) My Dad also claims that both he and my mother used to have Rolexes and that they don't keep good time (he was NOT happy with this purchase decision). I hope he's wrong ...

20 July 2009, 01:56 PM	#17
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	[QUOTE=lovecartier;1271866]Well I'm glad you guys all think I picked a good one - the parents didn't. Yet again, their eyes are about 40 years older than mine are ... When it's hard to read is actually when the hands are below the cyclops more than anything else. It is a pretty damn cool watch though! :) My Dad also claims that both he and my mother used to have Rolexes and that they don't keep good time (he was NOT happy with this purchase decision). I hope he's wrong ...[/QUOTE] He is.......

20 July 2009, 03:58 PM	#18
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,039	I heard that they used a wooden tool to make the tapistry dial and that the tool wore out, thus they discontinued it. But for whatever reason, it is too bad they no longer make that dial.

20 July 2009, 10:10 PM	#20
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	very nice congratulations __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

20 July 2009, 10:12 PM	#21
zak98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TN Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,166	wonderful watch! you can remove the bracelet and get the s/n and case number just to have that info as well. or if you are not comfortable doing that, an AD will do it for you. congrats again! __________________ Z- Submariner; P- Airking; R- DateJust; M- GMTII; C0 - Milgauss GV Breitling SuperOcean Heritage 46 Omega Speedmaster Racing Panerai PAM390

22 July 2009, 12:20 PM	#27
lovecartier Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Washington Watch: TT DJ 36mm Jubilee Posts: 61	Hey - some more questions (thanks for all of the very helpful answers I got): - Is it normal that at this age the "luminous" hands don't ... luminate anymore? - I caved in and bought Tourneau's 3 year warranty because my understanding is that the service that needs to be performed every 5-7 years costs about $500 and this will cover it whenever I want it (so if I do it in 3 years, I'm good for about 8-10 at the price of $195). They do use only Rolex parts, right? - Any way I can get a Rolex box for this thing? BernardWatch.com is a reputable company that appears to sell them but I don't know if having a box from the wrong year is any good? - Is it true I can take the Rolex to a Rolex Service Center (I live in Manhattan) and have it checked out and get papers for the thing? If yes, is there a fee for that? Thanks so much again all of you. Love this site. And my Datejust.

22 July 2009, 12:26 PM	#28
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	It's a beautiful watch.....in twenty years time when you are still wearing it, I'll bet my bottom dollar your Dad admits he was wrong....it is a lot of money to spend on a watch no matter which Rolex you decide on....but it'll still seem like the best money you ever spent in the years to come.... __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

22 July 2009, 12:58 PM	#30
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	Yes it's perfectly normal for the lume on your watch to not glow anymore....your dial will say "T SWISS MADE T" at the 6 o'clock position...or maybe "T SWISS T"....or something like that....this indicates a Tritium dial, that's the substance they used for luminous glow, it only lasts around 12 years or so, very very good initially but it doesn't last which is a great shame.....Rolex now use Super Luminova which lasts forever (apparently).... As for the box and paperwork, it's only really of great importance if you intend selling the watch in the future as it increases the value a bit, service papers will serve as authentication.....if it's your only Rolex when do you intend to use the box???? __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

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