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clarencek · 6 August 2009, 08:25 AM

I'm thinking about the black SS 2010 sub...

To be honest, I like the size of the old cases - they wear better (I have a GMTIIC and a 14060M).

Am I alone on this?

Tools · 6 August 2009, 08:32 AM

Nope, you're not alone..

I don't like the newer block cases.........

.........I don't like 'em, I don't plan to buy one.....

padi56 · 8 August 2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Nope, you're not alone..

I don't like the newer block cases.........

.........I don't like 'em, I don't plan to buy one.....

Have to agree Larry a change for the worst IMHO just cannot see the reasoning calling it a Maxi case for just a millimetre or so.And the old case has been very well tested over the last 40 odd years.IMHO bigger is not always better in this case.

Welshwatchman · 8 August 2009, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Nope, you're not alone..

I don't like the newer block cases.........

.........I don't like 'em, I don't plan to buy one.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree Larry a change for the worst IMHO just cannot see the reasoning calling it a Maxi case for just a millimetre or so.And the old case has been very well tested over the last 40 odd years.IMHO bigger is not always better in this case.

I thought at first Larry was mad when he decried the maxi case and ceramic bezel of the GMT.

Now I realise that he is mad ..

.. but absolutely correct.

Nothing wears as well as a 14060 or vintage GMT.

Perhaps it's just me getting older.

The GMT Kid · 6 August 2009, 08:33 AM

I prefer the smaller cases.

STEELINOX · 6 August 2009, 09:08 AM

the new cases are called, "SUPERCASES" - I know, because I coined the term !

Thanks,
Randy

MortgageGuy · 6 August 2009, 09:16 AM

I know cause I coined the term... I love it

Brushpup · 6 August 2009, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarencek

I'm thinking about the black SS 2010 sub...

To be honest, I like the size of the old cases - they wear better (I have a GMTIIC and a 14060M).

Am I alone on this?

No, you are not alone. I love the older cases on all the models. IMO, they are much more graceful with better proportions. Some of the newer ones seem to me, very dis-proportionate to the bracelets. Had they modified the width to match the cases it would have looked better. This is only one man's opinion. But since you asked........

Patrick

oldrolex · 6 August 2009, 09:21 AM

old school

WatchSnob · 6 August 2009, 09:24 AM

Old school except for the DSSD and a true supersized case although I can sort of understand the complaint the bracelet is a little small for the head. Not saying I like the DSSD more than the SD, I like them both equally but I am saying if I am going for a big case model it will be the DSSD.

Wolfgang427 · 6 August 2009, 09:42 AM

I prefer the original size cases over the obese oversized ones.

DSJ · 7 August 2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfgang427

I prefer the original size cases over the obese oversized ones.

Of course they are just matching us better now as much of the developed world's people have become "obese oversized ones!"

I like the smaller ones better, though I don't mind the new ones on the DJ's.

karmatp · 8 August 2009, 12:19 AM

I would take the classic GMT's over the new ceramic with the super case, and I much prefer the classic SD to the SDDS, I guess I am old school also.

Ozzie · 8 August 2009, 12:23 AM

I too prefer the old case.
The proportions of the new larger case seem wrong to me.

Deeper · 7 August 2009, 11:32 PM

I like the size of the new ones (not the DSSD). Dont like the shape

Dan Pierce · 7 August 2009, 11:43 PM

I'd have to agree I'm partial to the classic models too.
dP

Xenophon · 8 August 2009, 12:22 AM

Prefer the old ones. I think the big block cases make the bracelets look very narrow and incongruous

sexner · 8 August 2009, 12:26 AM

I voted "I don't care"

...and I don't.

Some like ceramic bezel inserts, some don't like PCL's, some like TT, some don't like Daytona's, some like NATO straps, some don't like an engraved rehaut...

Rolex has several models and combinations.

Purchase what appeals to you and try to live with what you like not what everybody else likes.

Just a thought

behardt · 8 August 2009, 01:17 AM

Definitely the Maxi case. Once you wear it, the proportion between the case and bracelet seem perfect. I had both. Once I got the GMTIIC, the older style case lugs looked kind of thin and wimpy. They also made the watch look dated. The maxi case looks stronger, more like a tool watch and normal. Had to sell the old ones...

jnkay · 8 August 2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by behardt

Definitely the Maxi case. Once you wear it, the proportion between the case and bracelet seem perfect. I had both. Once I got the GMTIIC, the older style case lugs looked kind of thin and wimpy. They also made the watch look dated. The maxi case looks stronger, more like a tool watch and normal. Had to sell the old ones...

+1 However, there are some things I like better about the models being phased out. I like the way the crystal is set a bit higher than the bezel insert and is beveled. I also like the polished bezels. The combination bezel polish and crystal setting catch the light very well, and is part of the classic rolex appeal, IMHO.

clarencek · 11 August 2009, 12:23 PM

Well, I went ahead and sold my GMTIIC on TZ tonight. I'm sticking with the older cases for the time-being - my two subs (LV and 14060) and my Daytona. I think it will take me a while to get used to the metal on the new cases, but I'll probably change my mind when the black SS sub comes out next year. :-)

rolexgiants · 8 August 2009, 01:44 AM

i like the look of both.... but i prefer the weight of the older cases.....

behardt · 8 August 2009, 02:09 AM

Interestingly enough, I like the maxi case sport watches, but don't like the look or size of the new Day date II or Datejust II. Too flat looking and too big. The Day Date lost some of it's elegance for me. Also, I LOVE the president bracelet, but I think it looks out of proportion (too small) on the Day Date II. I wonder if they are going to leave both models out there so that they might be able to cancel the newer ones if trends change??

pz93c · 11 August 2009, 03:15 PM

Old case.

Psmith · 12 August 2009, 10:20 PM

I like 'em both
(guess that makes me a "don't care")

Cheers

haakon59 · 14 August 2009, 06:15 AM

I haven't purchased the newer GMT with the new case, so I can't say, but I am surprised that many prefer the old case. My understanding is that Rolex designed the new case specifically to be more ergonomically comfortable. I have to try out the difference for myself some time. But I have to admit I am surprised by the number of forum participants who prefer the old--maybe I should look into used? Maybe. I don't mind the ceramic bezel, but the comfort level does actually impact me, so I'll obviously need to check into this.

moby33 · 14 August 2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by haakon59

But I have to admit I am surprised by the number of forum participants who prefer the old

I'm not. During my time on this forum, I have observed a much greater aversion to any type of model change than on other forums. I have also observed people screaming murder when these new models come out, yet fast forward 12-18 months and amazingly enough the extreme criticism seems to fade away (YMII/DSSD/'Smurf' Sub to name a few).

In general, I believe the vast majority of member on TRF are 'old school' Rolex lovers (and I'm not talking age...I'm talking those that think models like the Sub/Daytona are perfect and can't be improved upon...which ironically enough I think is pretty laughable seeing as both of those models have changed significantly over the last 30-50 years!!!)...they love the classic models and usually think Rolex would be better off leaving a tried and true class like the Sub alone when it comes to major change. Heck, just do a search of anything having to do with adding a date to the Daytona and you'll understand what I'm saying (personally I think Rolex would have a home-run on their hands if they offered a Daytona-Date AND Daytona...others tend to disagree in great numbers...I don't get it as I'll never understand why offering more choice is considered a bad thing

).

Personally, I think some change (and not too often) is good and helps to keep the brand fresh. I love Omega, but feel they update their lines too often which hurts when you're trying to invent a 'modern classic' watch.

Rolex has been slow to change and to the casual observer it's next to impossible to tell a difference of many of the updates (such as the case with these new Supercases, Maxi-dials, better clasps)...yet when you get a bunch of WIS together that don't necessarily like any alterations to a classic, you would think Rolex invented a completely new and different watch that looks nothing like the model it replaced.

B. Doggy · 8 August 2009, 03:35 AM

Old all the way. I'm curious to see the new SS SUB in the flesh whenever it may come out though.

Welshwatchman · 8 August 2009, 03:40 AM

... I may change my mind when I strap the potential forthcoming SS sub or GMT 'coke' release to my wrist.

On second thoughts .... £5000+.

RW16610 · 8 August 2009, 03:47 AM

I prefer a more refined look from before! I do not like the Supercase really, just seems kind of clunky but no doubt they are nice too.

View Poll Results: Which case size do you prefer?
Old / Smaller Case (ex. 14060M)	90	53.89%
New / Larger Case (ex. GMTIIC)	59	35.33%
I don't care	18	10.78%
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6 August 2009, 08:25 AM	#1
clarencek "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 400	New Case vs Old Case I'm thinking about the black SS 2010 sub... To be honest, I like the size of the old cases - they wear better (I have a GMTIIC and a 14060M). Am I alone on this?

6 August 2009, 08:32 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,160	Nope, you're not alone.. I don't like the newer block cases......... .........I don't like 'em, I don't plan to buy one..... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

8 August 2009, 12:19 AM	#13
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	I would take the classic GMT's over the new ceramic with the super case, and I much prefer the classic SD to the SDDS, I guess I am old school also. __________________ My grails:

8 August 2009, 12:23 AM	#14
Ozzie "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London UK Watch: Daytona 116520 WD Posts: 143	I too prefer the old case. The proportions of the new larger case seem wrong to me. __________________ Daytona 116520 WD GMT Pepsi 16700 Sea Dweller 16600 Sub Date 16610 Panerai PAM 111

6 August 2009, 08:33 AM	#5
The GMT Kid Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: S.F. Peninsula Watch: what you say! Posts: 815	I prefer the smaller cases.

6 August 2009, 09:08 AM	#6
STEELINOX 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,007	the new cases are called, "SUPERCASES" - I know, because I coined the term ! Thanks, Randy

6 August 2009, 09:16 AM	#7
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	I know cause I coined the term... I love it

6 August 2009, 09:21 AM	#9
oldrolex Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: WI, USA Watch: DD Wanted Posts: 580	old school

6 August 2009, 09:24 AM	#10
WatchSnob Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: US Posts: 460	Old school except for the DSSD and a true supersized case although I can sort of understand the complaint the bracelet is a little small for the head. Not saying I like the DSSD more than the SD, I like them both equally but I am saying if I am going for a big case model it will be the DSSD.

6 August 2009, 09:42 AM	#11
Wolfgang427 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,590	I prefer the original size cases over the obese oversized ones.

7 August 2009, 11:32 PM	#15
Deeper Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 62	I like the size of the new ones (not the DSSD). Dont like the shape

7 August 2009, 11:43 PM	#16
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 35,843	I'd have to agree I'm partial to the classic models too. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

8 August 2009, 12:22 AM	#17
Xenophon 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Xenophon Location: UK Posts: 2,699	Prefer the old ones. I think the big block cases make the bracelets look very narrow and incongruous __________________ The sea! The sea! Θάλαττα! θάλαττα!

8 August 2009, 12:26 AM	#18
sexner "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: 4Q Location: Nowhere near you Watch: 169622, 124060 Posts: 2,014	I voted "I don't care" ...and I don't. Some like ceramic bezel inserts, some don't like PCL's, some like TT, some don't like Daytona's, some like NATO straps, some don't like an engraved rehaut... Rolex has several models and combinations. Purchase what appeals to you and try to live with what you like not what everybody else likes. Just a thought __________________ One should endeavor to do what is right not what is established.

8 August 2009, 01:17 AM	#19
behardt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Yoda Location: USA Posts: 468	Definitely the Maxi case. Once you wear it, the proportion between the case and bracelet seem perfect. I had both. Once I got the GMTIIC, the older style case lugs looked kind of thin and wimpy. They also made the watch look dated. The maxi case looks stronger, more like a tool watch and normal. Had to sell the old ones... __________________ "The world embarrasses me, and I cannot dream that this watch exists and has no watchmaker." Voltaire

11 August 2009, 12:23 PM	#21
clarencek "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 400	Well, I went ahead and sold my GMTIIC on TZ tonight. I'm sticking with the older cases for the time-being - my two subs (LV and 14060) and my Daytona. I think it will take me a while to get used to the metal on the new cases, but I'll probably change my mind when the black SS sub comes out next year. :-)

8 August 2009, 01:44 AM	#22
rolexgiants "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: new york, usa Posts: 2,901	i like the look of both.... but i prefer the weight of the older cases.....

8 August 2009, 02:09 AM	#23
behardt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Yoda Location: USA Posts: 468	Size matters for me based on style Interestingly enough, I like the maxi case sport watches, but don't like the look or size of the new Day date II or Datejust II. Too flat looking and too big. The Day Date lost some of it's elegance for me. Also, I LOVE the president bracelet, but I think it looks out of proportion (too small) on the Day Date II. I wonder if they are going to leave both models out there so that they might be able to cancel the newer ones if trends change?? __________________ "The world embarrasses me, and I cannot dream that this watch exists and has no watchmaker." Voltaire

11 August 2009, 03:15 PM	#24
pz93c "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 2,776	Old case.

12 August 2009, 10:20 PM	#25
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	I like 'em both (guess that makes me a "don't care") Cheers __________________

14 August 2009, 06:15 AM	#26
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	I haven't purchased the newer GMT with the new case, so I can't say, but I am surprised that many prefer the old case. My understanding is that Rolex designed the new case specifically to be more ergonomically comfortable. I have to try out the difference for myself some time. But I have to admit I am surprised by the number of forum participants who prefer the old--maybe I should look into used? Maybe. I don't mind the ceramic bezel, but the comfort level does actually impact me, so I'll obviously need to check into this.

8 August 2009, 03:35 AM	#28
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Old all the way. I'm curious to see the new SS SUB in the flesh whenever it may come out though. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

8 August 2009, 03:40 AM	#29
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	... I may change my mind when I strap the potential forthcoming SS sub or GMT 'coke' release to my wrist. On second thoughts .... £5000+. __________________ ..33

8 August 2009, 03:47 AM	#30
RW16610 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Rommel Location: Toronto Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 9,017	I prefer a more refined look from before! I do not like the Supercase really, just seems kind of clunky but no doubt they are nice too.

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