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Ballzzz · 21 July 2023, 04:55 AM

Greg & Lisa were great to deal with unfortunately they have lost their AD status. They were told Queens does not have enough high end boutique luxury shopping and it does not fit in their portfolio. The continuation of shutting down the small mom & pop for the large multis continues.

I try and tell everyone on here, don’t waste your time with "relationships" as you can wake up one day and all your spend/time/gifts/hopes/prayers are down the drain.

Good Luck Lorilil you got a great staff and I wish you all nothing but success even without the crown!

usmc-4066 · 21 July 2023, 05:26 AM

Ugh. Where will Zamundan royalty shop now?

J to the Z · 21 July 2023, 05:42 AM

So sad for such a great AD and an even greater family to have lost their status (it actually happened in Q1). I truly wish them all the best moving forward and continue to keep in touch with them on a regular basis from the friendship we've formed.

I've been a long time client and while it's definitely disheartening that they've lost their status, I was able to mark some of the most important occasions of my life with watches they sold to me. While surely one could say I've "lost" more than those who were not as committed clients, I also came away with a whole host of desirable pieces that I'm very proud of. So to me, while yes I've lost the ability to continue purchasing new pieces from them, I've come away with many pieces in return which I don't view as a loss (even from a financial point of view the value I'm coming away with from the pieces I've obtained far outweighs the amount of money put into the relationship).

train-time · 21 July 2023, 06:28 AM

Sad, but another one bites the dust. The typical rationale..... you no longer fit our profile. With Rolex consolidating to all the big, multi-unit, upscale operations in high-end locations it's only a matter of time before the trickle down of the new image begins to cut us poor schlubs out for more worthy customers to be graced with an allocation.

TheDogHouse · 21 July 2023, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by usmc-4066

Ugh. Where will Zamundan royalty shop now?

LOL! Nice!

ArtNouveau · 21 July 2023, 07:47 AM

I never made it out to their store but was aware that a mom and pop dealer still existed in the outer boroughs.
In a similar story, I had had some history with a small independent in Tyler, TX, Susan Robinson Jewelers. They survived years of purges and early this year the owners retired and closed shop. I wondered if maybe just maybe a new AD might come on board, it’s a small city market but with a fair amount of regional wealth. Six months later a new AD in the area seems doubtful.

PS: surprised to see there are still ADs in Brooklyn and on Staten Island.

Calatrava r · 21 July 2023, 07:51 AM

Sorry to hear this. A lot of people are hurt by these these loss of statuses.

Old Geezer · 21 July 2023, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by train-time

Sad, but another one bites the dust. The typical rationale..... you no longer fit our profile. With Rolex consolidating to all the big, multi-unit, upscale operations in high-end locations it's only a matter of time before the trickle down of the new image begins to cut us poor schlubs out for more worthy customers to be graced with an allocation.

Maybe this is Rolex's plan all along

Move further up market to where the stores can sell all kinds of expensive stuff and anoint the big spenders with an occasional Rolex to keep them hooked on spending. Rolex can sell everything they make in this scenario with a much smaller AD network.
My AD is exceptional but they're not in a metropolitan city. I'd be bummed but not shocked if Rolex pulled their status and with that the likelihood that I would ever be able to purchase a Rolex from an AD again.

RichM · 21 July 2023, 11:32 AM

That’s really sad to hear. Bought my first Rolex from them back in 2004. I still have it.

garyk · 21 July 2023, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Greg & Lisa were great to deal with unfortunately they have lost their AD status. They were told Queens does not have enough high end boutique luxury shopping and it does not fit in their portfolio. The continuation of shutting down the small mom & pop for the large multis continues.

I try and tell everyone on here, don’t waste your time with "relationships" as you can wake up one day and all your spend/time/gifts/hopes/prayers are down the drain.

Good Luck Lorilil you got a great staff and I wish you all nothing but success even without the crown!

Life is nothing but a crap shoot….

Ballzzz · 21 July 2023, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

I never made it out to their store but was aware that a mom and pop dealer still existed in the outer boroughs.
In a similar story, I had had some history with a small independent in Tyler, TX, Susan Robinson Jewelers. They survived years of purges and early this year the owners retired and closed shop. I wondered if maybe just maybe a new AD might come on board, it’s a small city market but with a fair amount of regional wealth. Six months later a new AD in the area seems doubtful.

PS: surprised to see there are still ADs in Brooklyn and on Staten Island.

SI is very surprising IMHO - BK I can kinda understand

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Life is nothing but a crap shoot….

Sure is my friend!

DeepCeasar · 22 July 2023, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by usmc-4066

Ugh. Where will Zamundan royalty shop now?

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Tranzotic54 · 22 July 2023, 05:38 AM

Has anyone dealt with the AD on SI? Curious how they compare with the others in NYC?

Bozack90 · 22 July 2023, 08:48 AM

Don’t they have another location in Springfield MA, wonder if they will lose it too

J to the Z · 22 July 2023, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bozack90

Don’t they have another location in Springfield MA, wonder if they will lose it too

The other location is under different management, so it is not related to the loss in Queens.

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KCJARVIS · 25 July 2023, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tranzotic54

Has anyone dealt with the AD on SI? Curious how they compare with the others in NYC?

Richard is fantastic!!!! Proactively reaches out and is a straight shooter. I've bought 3 watches from Gerald Peters.

fskywalker · 25 July 2023, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by garyk

Life is nothing but a crap shoot….

+1

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Tranzotic54 · 26 July 2023, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJARVIS

Richard is fantastic!!!! Proactively reaches out and is a straight shooter. I've bought 3 watches from Gerald Peters.

Good to know thanks. Do you think it’s best I call to make an appointment before I go?

envuks · 26 July 2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J to the Z

The other location is under different management, so it is not related to the loss in Queens.

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Interesting. These two stores share a website and I always thought they were the same company. The springfield store also has / had a small boutique in the casino nearby. Victor and Chris at the springfield store were always good to chat with about rolex. I’ve visited that location many times

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Sam Alkubadi · 17 August 2023, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

PS: surprised to see there are still ADs in Brooklyn and on Staten Island.

The one in Brooklyn is actually new

Sam Alkubadi · 17 August 2023, 10:49 AM

I see someone already posted a story regarding this mom n pops shop.

I live only minutes from that shop n had a watch serviced there. I was even on the list for an explorer. I guess I won't be getting that call anytime soon.

Sad that Rolex did that, but no surprise. Companies do stupid s*** like that when they get big in the game.

Mystro · 17 August 2023, 10:54 AM

That’s crap, there is plenty of money and upscale buyers to easily support a AD there. This is another internal move pushing the brand more upscale in exclusivity.

77T · 17 August 2023, 02:02 PM

I believe the owners and their staff should pivot to repurpose those display cases.

Branding it like LCPO Swiss Watches, and adding inventory, and following the model of DavidSW (or other similarly successful resellers) this shop could disprove RolexUSA Marketing.

Plus, there is no limit on the Swiss brands they might offer side by side - something Rolex would have prohibited.

Lemons to lemonade methinks.

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ArtNouveau · 17 August 2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 77T

I believe the owners and their staff should pivot to repurpose those display cases.

Branding it like LCPO Swiss Watches, and adding inventory, and following the model of DavidSW (or other similarly successful resellers) this shop could disprove RolexUSA Marketing.

Plus, there is no limit on the Swiss brands they might offer side by side - something Rolex would have prohibited.

Lemons to lemonade methinks.

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Carat and Company in nearby Flushing has many high end brands, has never carried Rolex, and apparently does very well.

ltmgeller · 18 August 2023, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by usmc-4066

Ugh. Where will Zamundan royalty shop now?

SavGADawg · 18 August 2023, 12:26 AM

Well done

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Originally Posted by usmc-4066

Ugh. Where will Zamundan royalty shop now?

Time Bandit · 18 August 2023, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by envuks

Interesting. These two stores share a website and I always thought they were the same company. The springfield store also has / had a small boutique in the casino nearby. Victor and Chris at the springfield store were always good to chat with about rolex. I’ve visited that location many times

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I have been to the Springfield location. I wonder what kind of allocations they get as it’s not exactly a prosperous city or surrounding area.

Willyjo · 18 August 2023, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by usmc-4066

Ugh. Where will Zamundan royalty shop now?

McDowell’s Jewellery

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Jack T · 18 August 2023, 10:06 PM

The process of shopping for a Rolex, from walking in to a store with sparse cases, snarky or uninformed sales people, who at best ignore you and often treat new customers dismissively, discouraging two year wait lists, slight of hand allocation policies, leveraging unwanted jewelry or other products, and fewer outlets to reduce consumer buying choices, makes one weary.

People must feel like Dorothy and her buddies knocking on the door of the Emerald Palace, asking to see the Wizard and cowering in fear as they are told “Go away!! The Wizard doesn’t want to see you!”

stevestil · 18 August 2023, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tranzotic54

Has anyone dealt with the AD on SI? Curious how they compare with the others in NYC?

Gerald Peters on SI is top notch. I have had a great experience there, and so have referrals I’ve sent

I deal with Gerald Jr and he is a great guy. Straight shooter, no fluff or BS.

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21 July 2023, 04:55 AM	#1
Ballzzz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NY Posts: 2,488	Lorilil Jewelers Queens NY Lost AD Status =( Greg & Lisa were great to deal with unfortunately they have lost their AD status. They were told Queens does not have enough high end boutique luxury shopping and it does not fit in their portfolio. The continuation of shutting down the small mom & pop for the large multis continues. I try and tell everyone on here, don’t waste your time with "relationships" as you can wake up one day and all your spend/time/gifts/hopes/prayers are down the drain. Good Luck Lorilil you got a great staff and I wish you all nothing but success even without the crown! __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein

21 July 2023, 11:32 AM	#9
RichM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 28,603	That’s really sad to hear. Bought my first Rolex from them back in 2004. I still have it. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

17 August 2023, 10:54 AM	#22
Mystro 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 14,908	That’s crap, there is plenty of money and upscale buyers to easily support a AD there. This is another internal move pushing the brand more upscale in exclusivity. __________________

17 August 2023, 02:02 PM	#23
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,044	I believe the owners and their staff should pivot to repurpose those display cases. Branding it like LCPO Swiss Watches, and adding inventory, and following the model of DavidSW (or other similarly successful resellers) this shop could disprove RolexUSA Marketing. Plus, there is no limit on the Swiss brands they might offer side by side - something Rolex would have prohibited. Lemons to lemonade methinks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

18 August 2023, 10:06 PM	#29
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,663	The process of shopping for a Rolex, from walking in to a store with sparse cases, snarky or uninformed sales people, who at best ignore you and often treat new customers dismissively, discouraging two year wait lists, slight of hand allocation policies, leveraging unwanted jewelry or other products, and fewer outlets to reduce consumer buying choices, makes one weary. People must feel like Dorothy and her buddies knocking on the door of the Emerald Palace, asking to see the Wizard and cowering in fear as they are told “Go away!! The Wizard doesn’t want to see you!” __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

21 July 2023, 05:26 AM	#2
usmc-4066 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Oregon Posts: 8	Ugh. Where will Zamundan royalty shop now?

21 July 2023, 05:42 AM	#3
J to the Z "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Watch: Rolex, AP Posts: 237	So sad for such a great AD and an even greater family to have lost their status (it actually happened in Q1). I truly wish them all the best moving forward and continue to keep in touch with them on a regular basis from the friendship we've formed. I've been a long time client and while it's definitely disheartening that they've lost their status, I was able to mark some of the most important occasions of my life with watches they sold to me. While surely one could say I've "lost" more than those who were not as committed clients, I also came away with a whole host of desirable pieces that I'm very proud of. So to me, while yes I've lost the ability to continue purchasing new pieces from them, I've come away with many pieces in return which I don't view as a loss (even from a financial point of view the value I'm coming away with from the pieces I've obtained far outweighs the amount of money put into the relationship).

21 July 2023, 06:28 AM	#4
train-time "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Over there Posts: 4,026	Sad, but another one bites the dust. The typical rationale..... you no longer fit our profile. With Rolex consolidating to all the big, multi-unit, upscale operations in high-end locations it's only a matter of time before the trickle down of the new image begins to cut us poor schlubs out for more worthy customers to be graced with an allocation.

21 July 2023, 07:47 AM	#6
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 5,041	I never made it out to their store but was aware that a mom and pop dealer still existed in the outer boroughs. In a similar story, I had had some history with a small independent in Tyler, TX, Susan Robinson Jewelers. They survived years of purges and early this year the owners retired and closed shop. I wondered if maybe just maybe a new AD might come on board, it’s a small city market but with a fair amount of regional wealth. Six months later a new AD in the area seems doubtful. PS: surprised to see there are still ADs in Brooklyn and on Staten Island.

21 July 2023, 07:51 AM	#7
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,759	Sorry to hear this. A lot of people are hurt by these these loss of statuses.

22 July 2023, 05:38 AM	#13
Tranzotic54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 126710BLRO Posts: 33	Has anyone dealt with the AD on SI? Curious how they compare with the others in NYC?

22 July 2023, 08:48 AM	#14
Bozack90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Chowdaland Watch: Out Posts: 596	Don’t they have another location in Springfield MA, wonder if they will lose it too

17 August 2023, 10:49 AM	#21
Sam Alkubadi "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Real Name: Samir Location: Richmond Hill, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 20	I see someone already posted a story regarding this mom n pops shop. I live only minutes from that shop n had a watch serviced there. I was even on the list for an explorer. I guess I won't be getting that call anytime soon. Sad that Rolex did that, but no surprise. Companies do stupid s*** like that when they get big in the game.

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