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joncho · 14 August 2023, 11:39 AM

Came across this watch, and without any knowledge or too much history on it, this looks like a fake to me. The dial, the numerals… to name a few. Am I missing something? What are your thoughts on this watch?

MILGAUSS88 · 14 August 2023, 11:47 AM

It could be original, I have a very similar one.
The design appears to be the late 40's / early 50's.
The minute hand has been replaced or repaired.

The one thing that bothers me, is that the corner of the case looks like it is gold filled and is worn through. I cannot tell if it is that or just really dirty.

I would expect it to be 18k solid gold. Are there any marks on the bracelet?
If you opened the back and took a photo of the movement and the inside of the case back, we could probably figure it out.

joncho · 14 August 2023, 11:55 AM

Thanks for the quick reply Milgauss88

I did not get a chance to see it in person, and the pictures I received didn’t show any marking on the bracelet. I also didn’t get any pictures of the movement. The person that sent those to me figured I would be interested and the price they are selling it for, but I saw red flags everywhere. I guess I’m just not too familiar with such early era watches.

Would you mind sharing a picture of the one you have?
Thanks.

MILGAUSS88 · 14 August 2023, 12:24 PM

Here are some photos:

MILGAUSS88 · 14 August 2023, 12:25 PM

I guess my hallmarks were on the inside of the case as well.

MILGAUSS88 · 14 August 2023, 12:28 PM

These are ladies watches, you realize?
Not sure if your seller explained that.
I paid a little over scrap gold price for mine.

joncho · 14 August 2023, 01:54 PM

Thanks for the pictures. They are very similar indeed.

Yeah, it was going for scrap gold price so it wasn’t anything crazy priced.
I passed on it due to the conditions and work I would have to do to it for my wife to wear it.

Some interesting stuff that is out there for sure.

Cheers

jnelson3097 · 15 August 2023, 01:27 AM

was that watch for on the goodwill website?

joncho · 15 August 2023, 01:47 AM

Indeed. Did you buy it?

Calatrava r · 15 August 2023, 11:02 PM

It looks like it is just gold plated. In any case condition is really an issue with this watch.

jnelson3097 · 16 August 2023, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joncho

Indeed. Did you buy it?

No, it’s interesting to look on there but I’d be hesitant to buy anything.

14 August 2023, 11:47 AM	#2
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,994	It could be original, I have a very similar one. The design appears to be the late 40's / early 50's. The minute hand has been replaced or repaired. The one thing that bothers me, is that the corner of the case looks like it is gold filled and is worn through. I cannot tell if it is that or just really dirty. I would expect it to be 18k solid gold. Are there any marks on the bracelet? If you opened the back and took a photo of the movement and the inside of the case back, we could probably figure it out.

14 August 2023, 11:55 AM	#3
joncho "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 60	Thanks for the quick reply Milgauss88 I did not get a chance to see it in person, and the pictures I received didn’t show any marking on the bracelet. I also didn’t get any pictures of the movement. The person that sent those to me figured I would be interested and the price they are selling it for, but I saw red flags everywhere. I guess I’m just not too familiar with such early era watches. Would you mind sharing a picture of the one you have? Thanks.

14 August 2023, 12:25 PM	#5
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,994	I guess my hallmarks were on the inside of the case as well.

14 August 2023, 12:28 PM	#6
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,994	These are ladies watches, you realize? Not sure if your seller explained that. I paid a little over scrap gold price for mine.

14 August 2023, 01:54 PM	#7
joncho "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 60	Thanks for the pictures. They are very similar indeed. Yeah, it was going for scrap gold price so it wasn’t anything crazy priced. I passed on it due to the conditions and work I would have to do to it for my wife to wear it. Some interesting stuff that is out there for sure. Cheers

15 August 2023, 01:27 AM	#8
jnelson3097 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Justin Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,307	was that watch for on the goodwill website?

15 August 2023, 01:47 AM	#9
joncho "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 60	Indeed. Did you buy it?

15 August 2023, 11:02 PM	#10
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,780	It looks like it is just gold plated. In any case condition is really an issue with this watch.

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