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HMHM · 1 February 2024, 09:59 AM

Was looking through the website with the newest price increase, and noticed the 5164A has gone missing. Wondering if anyone is seeing the same thing on your respective website.

Edit: the 5980/1R is gone as well :’(
So as the 5712G.

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bob101 · 1 February 2024, 10:14 AM

Yeah looks that way as doesn’t appear on site. Can’t spot anything else gone at moment.

Ahfe · 1 February 2024, 10:27 AM

5164 steel out
5980 all done
5712 on straps are gone
7 ADs got cut in the US, increase is effective online as well

HMHM · 1 February 2024, 10:28 AM

5230P world timer is also gone.

bob101 · 1 February 2024, 10:31 AM

Perhaps the last year of 5712/1a then before they shift to precious metals or finish up. Though we’ve been saying that for a while :)

trackingtime · 1 February 2024, 11:57 AM

i see the same thing.
5164a, 5980, 5712 strap
gone!

DonLee · 1 February 2024, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HMHM

5230P world timer is also gone.

this was my biggest surprise. That watch had a very short run. so happy I got it

dchang81 · 1 February 2024, 01:19 PM

I thought they were replacing the world timer with the new Japan novelty with the date pointer.

dauster · 1 February 2024, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HMHM

5230P world timer is also gone.

Probably replaced with updated movement and similar to the Japanese model for exhibition in Tokyo with local time zone

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scurfa · 1 February 2024, 03:32 PM

I’m guessing the 5164 will be back with the travel time function working from the crown and not the side pushers, should be a nice looking replacement.

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bob101 · 1 February 2024, 04:02 PM

The 5524g would certainly look different also with that treatment :)

trackingtime · 1 February 2024, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scurfa

I’m guessing the 5164 will be back with the travel time function working from the crown and not the side pushers, should be a nice looking replacement.

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doesn't make sense, if they were to do it, they would have discontinued the 5164R as well

weird to have a steel and rg version with the same function but different look

bob101 · 1 February 2024, 07:53 PM

Seems like continuing to phase out the steel sports in favour of precious metal sports.
Bigger margins too. Presumably the last year of the 5164r. The market price of be 5164a still looks pretty reasonable versus the last retail price. It’s a really nice piece.

Rushne · 1 February 2024, 08:05 PM

Well RIP 5164.
Had a deposit down for two years and now my AD also lost Patek as of today ( knew about it for 8 months though)
Honestly. With Patek killing of all their AD’s and not moving their clients across to the remaining AD’s. I’m done with retail Patek. Hope it bites them in the ass but I somehow doubt it.

JR16 · 1 February 2024, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahfe

5164 steel out
5980 all done
5712 on straps are gone
7 ADs got cut in the US, increase is effective online as well

Which ADs got cut?

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iginut · 1 February 2024, 11:27 PM

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Which ADs got cut?

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From what I can see...

Windsor
WoS, Soho, NY
Tropicana Jewlers.
Hartgners
Hamilton Palm Beach
Chong Hing
Betteridge

lawyerdude · 1 February 2024, 11:43 PM

I think the 5396 in white gold is also gone.

V25V · 2 February 2024, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scurfa

I’m guessing the 5164 will be back with the travel time function working from the crown and not the side pushers, should be a nice looking replacement.

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That would be an awful decision. The pushers are soooo good an easy.

trackingtime · 2 February 2024, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

That would be an awful decision. The pushers are soooo good an easy.

100% agree

TunaTuna · 2 February 2024, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

That would be an awful decision. The pushers are soooo good an easy.

Agreed, the pushers are awesome and balance the case nicely.

I'll be buying one over the next 2-3 months and looking forward to owning

norcalgt3 · 2 February 2024, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by iginut

From what I can see...

Windsor
WoS, Soho, NY
Tropicana Jewlers.
Hartgners
Hamilton Palm Beach
Chong Hing
Betteridge

WoS and CH is kind of shocking

Calatrava r · 2 February 2024, 04:29 AM

I am always sad to see ADs go. A lot of loyal customers are always hurt by this. I would also think most of these stores, at their cost, built the required Patek boutique sections within their stores.

Bmats · 2 February 2024, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

I am always sad to see ADs go. A lot of loyal customers are always hurt by this. I would also think most of these stores, at their cost, built the required Patek boutique sections within their stores.

To me it’s sad because it doesn’t seem like they’re replacing them and in some instances making some markets harder.

I would guess some of these ADs balked at the cost of creating even more stand alone boutique storefronts or space. For those ADs that are doing that, I wonder if they get some conditional guarantee that the brand won’t pull the plug in X years.

wiswrist · 2 February 2024, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by iginut

From what I can see...

Windsor
WoS, Soho, NY
Tropicana Jewlers.
Hartgners
Hamilton Palm Beach
Chong Hing
Betteridge

Betteridge in Greenwich, CT is still an AD.

Mariushka · 2 February 2024, 06:28 AM

5396G also seems to be gone

Aboutderntime · 2 February 2024, 06:37 AM

Windsor in NC?

mickyd329 · 2 February 2024, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

I am always sad to see ADs go. A lot of loyal customers are always hurt by this. I would also think most of these stores, at their cost, built the required Patek boutique sections within their stores.

I'm confused by this strategy. Closing down a lot of AD's, but yet not opening more boutiques? I wonder where they are going with this. Also, I think leaving all of these clients out to dry when their AD loses status is a bad business model.

westoque · 2 February 2024, 10:27 AM

What’s funny is that I saw this model in the glass and have tried it on just 2 weeks ago at an AD. Wonder what happens to it now that it’s discontinued. The usual spill is that those watches are for display and once a replacement comes in they sell it.

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MRBolton · 2 February 2024, 10:34 AM

I wonder how much longer ADs will receive the 5164 for.

Bmats · 2 February 2024, 10:43 AM

I wanted a 5164a, but doubted I’d get it. But it was nice to have on that maybe someday view.

1 February 2024, 09:59 AM	#1
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,389	Patek Philippe 5164A discontinued? Was looking through the website with the newest price increase, and noticed the 5164A has gone missing. Wondering if anyone is seeing the same thing on your respective website. Edit: the 5980/1R is gone as well :’( So as the 5712G. IMG_6254.jpeg

1 February 2024, 03:32 PM	#10
scurfa "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sunderland Posts: 1,261	I’m guessing the 5164 will be back with the travel time function working from the crown and not the side pushers, should be a nice looking replacement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram @scurfawatches

1 February 2024, 08:05 PM	#14
Rushne 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 864	Well RIP 5164. Had a deposit down for two years and now my AD also lost Patek as of today ( knew about it for 8 months though) Honestly. With Patek killing of all their AD’s and not moving their clients across to the remaining AD’s. I’m done with retail Patek. Hope it bites them in the ass but I somehow doubt it. __________________ Omega: Seamaster Professional 300M 2220.80.00 Rolex: Daytona White Dial 116500LN Rolex: Sky-Dweller Blue Dial Jubilee 336934 Rolex: DateJust 36 Roman White Dial Oyster 126234 Rolex: OP 36 Celebration Dial 126000 Panerai: PAM 422 Patek Philippe: Aquanaut 5167A A. Lange & Söhne: 1815 Annual Calendar @mechanicaltom Stolen: IWC Portuguese 500107 Case number 3853222

1 February 2024, 11:43 PM	#17
lawyerdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Northeast Posts: 67	I think the 5396 in white gold is also gone. __________________ Rolex Datejust 126334 Omega Speedmaster Pro Rolex Submariner 126610LV

2 February 2024, 06:37 AM	#26
Aboutderntime "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: USA Watch: 5212a Posts: 182	Windsor in NC? __________________ Rolex GMT Master II “Pepsi” (126710BLRO), Rolex Daytona (116519), Rolex Explorer (214270), Rolex SkyDweller mint green (336934), Rolex Submariner (124060), Rolex Submariner “Hulk” (116610LV), Omega Seamaster Diver 300M, Patek Philippe Calatrava (6119r), Patek Philippe Weekly Calendar (5212a), Vacheron Constantine Overseas Black (4500V)

1 February 2024, 10:14 AM	#2
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 564	Yeah looks that way as doesn’t appear on site. Can’t spot anything else gone at moment.

1 February 2024, 10:27 AM	#3
Ahfe "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: US Posts: 214	5164 steel out 5980 all done 5712 on straps are gone 7 ADs got cut in the US, increase is effective online as well

1 February 2024, 10:28 AM	#4
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,389	5230P world timer is also gone.

1 February 2024, 10:31 AM	#5
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 564	Perhaps the last year of 5712/1a then before they shift to precious metals or finish up. Though we’ve been saying that for a while :)

1 February 2024, 11:57 AM	#6
trackingtime 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Asia Watch: Audemars Piguet RO Posts: 2,405	i see the same thing. 5164a, 5980, 5712 strap gone!

1 February 2024, 01:19 PM	#8
dchang81 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,060	I thought they were replacing the world timer with the new Japan novelty with the date pointer.

1 February 2024, 04:02 PM	#11
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 564	The 5524g would certainly look different also with that treatment :)

1 February 2024, 07:53 PM	#13
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 564	Seems like continuing to phase out the steel sports in favour of precious metal sports. Bigger margins too. Presumably the last year of the 5164r. The market price of be 5164a still looks pretty reasonable versus the last retail price. It’s a really nice piece.

2 February 2024, 04:29 AM	#22
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,699	I am always sad to see ADs go. A lot of loyal customers are always hurt by this. I would also think most of these stores, at their cost, built the required Patek boutique sections within their stores.

2 February 2024, 06:28 AM	#25
Mariushka "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Location: Europe Posts: 29	5396G also seems to be gone

2 February 2024, 10:27 AM	#28
westoque 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Real Name: Billy Location: NYC Watch: Apple Watch Posts: 159	What’s funny is that I saw this model in the glass and have tried it on just 2 weeks ago at an AD. Wonder what happens to it now that it’s discontinued. The usual spill is that those watches are for display and once a replacement comes in they sell it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 February 2024, 10:34 AM	#29
MRBolton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: USA Watch: ing my wrist Posts: 1,029	I wonder how much longer ADs will receive the 5164 for.

2 February 2024, 10:43 AM	#30
Bmats 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: East Coast Posts: 517	I wanted a 5164a, but doubted I’d get it. But it was nice to have on that maybe someday view.

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