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22 August 2014, 12:34 AM | #1 |
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1st Patek Philippe purchase dilemma!
An avid vintage Rolex collector, I want to add a PP to my collection and have narrowed the choice down to two watches, unfortunately I can’t afford both! The first for which I’m currently on an AD’s waiting list for, is the soon to be released 5960/1A, the other and it would be stretching my budget to the limit, is the 5170G-001.
Both have their pluses and minuses, the 5960/1A is automatic wind (a convenience), has a day, date and month display (plus) but no seconds sub dial (minus). The 5170G is manual wind (less convenient), no date display (minus), a seconds sub dial (plus) and is of precious metal (a nice extra). My thoughts are, am I getting more watch for my outlay in the 5960/1A compared with the 5170G or is the movement of the latter the crowning jewel for which I should be appreciating it. Both are chronographs which is what I’m after yet different in their presentation though appealing in equal amounts. I had originally dismissed the 5170G purely on price hence the 5960/1A seemed to fit the bill perfectly (though still a considerable sum!). Though looking at Steelerfan65’s 5170G on the wrist, I’m wondering whether pushing myself a little further might just be worth it !? Help !!! |
22 August 2014, 12:39 AM | #2 |
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Push the limit always.
PS. I have the 5960P with black dial and also thinking of adding the 5960 1A.
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Form a WIS standpoint of view 5170g no question.
But my advise is buy what you like. The 5960 is very special as well, I am liking more and more the 5990 though, gosh I have to get away from the Forum
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5170
but I would look for a discontinued 5070 which is IMO one of the best they ever made
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I was in love with the 5170 in pix but on the wrist it just didn't move me. Just didn't feel special enough for some reason. I was very surprised as I went to the AD with the full intent of buying one. I left with a 5164 instead that day.
Any way, with that in mind...I'd get the 5960...and have one on order now actually. Have you tried the 5170 on? |
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5960 or save up for a 5270/5970.
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Love the 5960. You can run the chrono (without additional wear) as a sweep seconds. When you want the chrono function just push the bottom pusher to engage the flyback (resets to zero and continues to run).
At the risk of having rocks thrown my direction, the 5170 looks 70 years old and the movement was not made by Patek. Manual wind, chrono (and time), that's it for function. Why (unless you desire precious metal) would you not rather have an automatic annual calendar chrono made by the company whose name is on the dial? |
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Push up for the 5170G.
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and this is THE PROOF that it will still look great within another 70 years ! This is what we call a classic
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5960 but grab a used precious metal version at a discount.
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I'd get the 5170g. Absolutely beautiful, amazing in house movement and a future classic.
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Yikes! I guess if I'm going to be mistaken I deserve a few rocks thrown my way! :) Actually, I'm grateful for the correction. When it comes to such valuable examples, my knowledge is shaky at best :( I just love Pateks so much, I can't stop talking about them even when I'm wrong! |
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5960 in gold pr platinum is just amazing!
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Wow, the 5170 looks amazing!
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5170g. Simply because it is outstanding and classic. 20 years from now, it will still look great. 5960 steel on that strange bracelet not so much IMHO.
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5170g or 5170j look amazing on the wrist. More so than any 5960. IMO the 5170 can be surprisingly casual too. I love it.
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I'd get the 5170G, it's magnificent!
I had the opertunity to try the yellow gold version on a year ago and I will not rest until I have one myself. sorry for the crappy phone pic, I couldn't keep my right hand steady because I was in shock when I took the picture |
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The 5170 is one of my all time favorite Pateks. It would be a no brainer for me between the two. Great size, beautiful dial, Breguet numerals, and timeless good looks.
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