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Europeanexotics · 23 October 2012, 10:40 AM

I just received what looks to be a vintage datejust stainless steel rolex with a18k white gold bezel. I am confused because there are many signs of a authentic rolex but I am not sure. The bracelet has screws not pins holding the links together. The white gold bezel looks to be real. There is a small chip in the bezel and beneath the chip there is no color change. It looks to be solid thru. The watch it self has age to it and still feels very sturdy. All of the markings are in the correct position. The movement is very smooth. The only thing that is throwing me off is the model number which is 16233. This model number seems to be for a 18k yellow gold bracket and bezel. I hope someone can help me.

R_Ongjoco · 23 October 2012, 10:43 AM

The cyclops seems like it doesnt even magnify the date...or maybe it's just the angle?

gregorpal · 23 October 2012, 11:00 AM

fake. cyclops, dial...

jatco · 23 October 2012, 11:13 AM

Im no expert.. but there are a lot of variations of the 16233,. The screws for the bracelet seems to coinside with the era, perahps.. tho the cyclops seems odd - could be the lighting...!
Markings, as you say, apprear to be correct.. - Have you had this checked out by a local watch maker??
Maybe others, more knowledgeable will chime in..!!

05tbowner · 23 October 2012, 12:20 PM

The font on the date wheel doesn't look like Rolex, more like ETA, but could be wrong!

joe100 · 23 October 2012, 01:29 PM

Yeah. Not good!

AmbSteve · 23 October 2012, 01:44 PM

This is not a genuine piece

SPARTAN2161 · 23 October 2012, 02:07 PM

cyclops, bezel, date font and dial. not real in my opinion

Bulldurham08 · 23 October 2012, 02:09 PM

Definitely has the look of an ETA date wheel...The dial looks far from genuine as well.

grandmasterP · 23 October 2012, 02:55 PM

it looks fake to me...... from the one picture the date font and the cyclops don't look right and the lugs should be longer and have a sharp edge on them.

the newer Rolexes have the sharp lug edges taken off so the case looks more squarish now

sleddog · 23 October 2012, 02:57 PM

Moved to where this watch belongs!

grandmasterP · 23 October 2012, 03:17 PM

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Watchmutt · 23 October 2012, 03:41 PM

Sorry, fake.

crowncollection · 23 October 2012, 04:15 PM

The numbers on a Rolex model are a code, a 16233 is two tone ( yellow gold and steel) with a fluted bezel, you can tell what the watch must look like without even seeing it, bar dial variations. The date is incorrect font, the dial is crude, mag is wrong, the watch is a total fake, sorry

bayerische · 23 October 2012, 06:44 PM

No bueno.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 23 October 2012, 07:34 PM

Wow!! That's not even close.

Tony1 · 23 October 2012, 07:47 PM

It's definetly a fake.
How much you pay for it ?

ba0688 · 23 October 2012, 11:30 PM

Hi,do you think this watch is authentic?
Thanks for your opinion!!

mjclark32 · 23 October 2012, 11:42 PM

Nope

ba0688 · 24 October 2012, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjclark32

Nope

Thanks for the response.
cute dog,I have one too!!

robertneville · 24 October 2012, 01:05 AM

they are both fake. sorry.

fusch · 24 October 2012, 01:15 AM

[QUOTE=Europeanexotics;I just received what looks to be a vintage datejust stainless steel rolex with a18k white gold bezel. [/QUOTE]

Some Things i know makes it look like to be a Fake. First the Cycope eye shold magnify the date to 2,5 times big, seems like it doesnt.
Second, The "LY" in "OFFICIALLY" shold be like this, that the End of the Letter L should be more right than the upper left starting point of the Y. That is not like this on your watch.
The number of your model should be 16234 for Stainless Steel and White Gold. 16233 is the number for SS/Gold

crowncollection · 24 October 2012, 06:06 AM

Also fake

Knappo 1307 · 24 October 2012, 06:42 AM

It's a fakejust

U5512 · 24 October 2012, 07:12 AM

Both watches are FAKE as pointed out by the members here.

alby.bda · 24 October 2012, 07:53 AM

not even close sorry they are both fakes .......hope you did not pay much for it

mrbill2mrbill2 · 24 October 2012, 08:56 PM

2nd is also a POS Fake.

canek · 24 November 2012, 05:34 AM

sorry no good

Alcan · 24 November 2012, 10:08 AM

Neither of the watches shown are of Rolex manufacture.

grandmasterP · 24 November 2012, 10:14 AM

the second one is even worse than the first

23 October 2012, 11:13 AM	#4
jatco 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 48,354	Im no expert.. but there are a lot of variations of the 16233,. The screws for the bracelet seems to coinside with the era, perahps.. tho the cyclops seems odd - could be the lighting...! Markings, as you say, apprear to be correct.. - Have you had this checked out by a local watch maker?? Maybe others, more knowledgeable will chime in..!! __________________ . . ' A Crown for every achievement '

23 October 2012, 01:29 PM	#6
joe100 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,753	Yeah. Not good! __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

23 October 2012, 01:44 PM	#7
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	This is not a genuine piece __________________

23 October 2012, 02:57 PM	#11
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,907	Moved to where this watch belongs! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

23 October 2012, 03:17 PM	#12
grandmasterP "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Vancouver Canada Watch: datejust Posts: 104	this is what it should look like..... Uploaded with ImageShack.us

23 October 2012, 10:43 AM	#2
R_Ongjoco "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Ron Location: BayArea/SanDiego Watch: AP Posts: 427	The cyclops seems like it doesnt even magnify the date...or maybe it's just the angle?

23 October 2012, 11:00 AM	#3
gregorpal "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Myplaceintheworld Posts: 335	fake. cyclops, dial...

23 October 2012, 12:20 PM	#5
05tbowner "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New York Posts: 29	The font on the date wheel doesn't look like Rolex, more like ETA, but could be wrong!

23 October 2012, 02:07 PM	#8
SPARTAN2161 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Nick H. Location: Amherst, NY Watch: me flip Posts: 1,901	cyclops, bezel, date font and dial. not real in my opinion

23 October 2012, 02:09 PM	#9
Bulldurham08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Kyle Location: PA Watch: 116610LN Posts: 404	Definitely has the look of an ETA date wheel...The dial looks far from genuine as well.

23 October 2012, 02:55 PM	#10
grandmasterP "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Vancouver Canada Watch: datejust Posts: 104	it looks fake to me...... from the one picture the date font and the cyclops don't look right and the lugs should be longer and have a sharp edge on them. the newer Rolexes have the sharp lug edges taken off so the case looks more squarish now

23 October 2012, 03:41 PM	#13
Watchmutt "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 116600 Posts: 724	Sorry, fake.

23 October 2012, 04:15 PM	#14
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	The numbers on a Rolex model are a code, a 16233 is two tone ( yellow gold and steel) with a fluted bezel, you can tell what the watch must look like without even seeing it, bar dial variations. The date is incorrect font, the dial is crude, mag is wrong, the watch is a total fake, sorry __________________ watches many

23 October 2012, 06:44 PM	#15
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	No bueno. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

23 October 2012, 07:34 PM	#16
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Wow!! That's not even close. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

23 October 2012, 07:47 PM	#17
Tony1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Bucharest Watch: me Posts: 889	It's definetly a fake. How much you pay for it ?

23 October 2012, 11:42 PM	#19
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Nope __________________

24 October 2012, 01:05 AM	#21
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	they are both fake. sorry. __________________ Motocross is life!

24 October 2012, 01:15 AM	#22
fusch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: GER Posts: 6	[QUOTE=Europeanexotics;I just received what looks to be a vintage datejust stainless steel rolex with a18k white gold bezel. [/QUOTE] Some Things i know makes it look like to be a Fake. First the Cycope eye shold magnify the date to 2,5 times big, seems like it doesnt. Second, The "LY" in "OFFICIALLY" shold be like this, that the End of the Letter L should be more right than the upper left starting point of the Y. That is not like this on your watch. The number of your model should be 16234 for Stainless Steel and White Gold. 16233 is the number for SS/Gold

24 October 2012, 06:06 AM	#23
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	Also fake __________________ watches many

24 October 2012, 06:42 AM	#24
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,558	It's a fakejust

24 October 2012, 07:53 AM	#26
alby.bda "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Alberto Location: bermuda Watch: patek 5712-1A Posts: 362	not even close sorry they are both fakes .......hope you did not pay much for it

24 October 2012, 08:56 PM	#27
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	2nd is also a POS Fake. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

24 November 2012, 05:34 AM	#28
canek Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: oscar Location: mexico Watch: GMT II Posts: 19	sorry no good

24 November 2012, 10:08 AM	#29
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Neither of the watches shown are of Rolex manufacture. __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

24 November 2012, 10:14 AM	#30
grandmasterP "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Vancouver Canada Watch: datejust Posts: 104	the second one is even worse than the first

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